Ok you won't believe this but those two programs I installed yodm'3d and visual tools icons didn't copy correctly over to another snapshot when I copy/updated them. The icons had a generic icon face to them. However when I clicked on them the icons magically appeared as they should be. Strange. I don't like that. I haven't messed with my computer settings or registry or services folder. Just installed those two proggys and played with them and decided to do an update copy of the snapshot over to another snapshot that didn't have the two programs and the icons came up wrong when I booted over to the newly updated snap. Grrrrr. I'll make another snapshot fresh from this and see if it happens again. And yes my security apps were all turned off so it can't or shouldn't be them.