Blackday trojan versus HIPS

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by aigle, Apr 27, 2011.

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  1. jmonge

    jmonge Registered Member

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    thanks Habakuck for info and thanks cloneranger for testing man:thumb:
     
  2. treehouse786

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    nice :thumb:

    i think prevx should have joint forces forces with drivesentry many years ago (especially seeing as both are developed in the same country)

    although this would have been good before drivesentry went rouge like
     
  3. pandorax

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    I am wondering what would be the result too.
     
  4. Baserk

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    As in Katie's make-up? j/k
    Nothing personal treehouse786 (really!), but I see so often people writing about some malware blusher make-up.

    It's rogue; R-O-G-U-E. link
    Rouge is what '(edit) some' women put on their cheeks link

    ↓ I stand corrected, cruelsister :blink:
     
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  5. cruelsister

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    Pardon me for the clarification, but Rouge is what SOME (very, very few) women put on their cheeks.
     
  6. JRViejo

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    Removed Off Topic Post. Let's get back on topic please. Thanks!
     
  7. treehouse786

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    omg how did i miss that! lol yes i meant rogue (stupid spell checker :blink: )
     
  8. Trooper

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    This is an awesome and informative post. Thanks to you all for all of your efforts!!
     
  9. alex_s

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    Nope, it's the rule to intercept the not trusted programs trying to create/modify/delete the files in the root directory. Trusted programs (windows components and other white-listed stuff) are allowed to do anything. The problem is the file and registry shields are only available in the paid version. But which is the most sad, it's most likely the last improvement to OA for the main OA developer, the guy who developed OA firewall and HIPS, has left Emsisoft for the reasons that are commercial secret. And I have a strong feeling OA will either downgrade or stay the same (in the security direction) since now.
     
  10. aigle

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    Very bad news indeed. :thumbd: :thumbd:
     
  11. jmonge

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    if this is true then :thumbd:
     
  12. SweX

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    Hmmm.. "The Guy" you say. Wasn't it a "Team" at Tall-Emu that developed the core HIPS and Firewall
    in Online-Armor? Including the CEO Mike Nash . Before OA was bought by Emsisoft.
    http://www.tallemu.com.au/about-us/management-team
    Now i'm confused o_O
     
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  13. Nizarawi

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    very bad news :(
     
  14. Peter2150

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    I don't see any bad news here. Emsisoft has every intention of continuing OA Development. I for one am very optimistic about the future of Online Armor.

    Pete
     
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  15. aigle

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    Time will tell. wait n see.
     
  16. jmonge

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    the thing is that OA developer is very talented and he knew his toy man so lets hope all it is ok:thumb:
     
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    This is quite a statement. As I'm sure you know, it is standard practice here at Wilders to provide a link to your source, otherwise we are left to our own imaginations as to how you got your information. Thank you, alex_s. :)
     
  18. alex_s

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    I wish your dreams to come true :)
     
  19. alex_s

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    It's always a team, of course. OA team ranged from 2 to 4 at different times.

    For one Mike who was OA CEO and OA "engine". He was the main and the oldest teamer. He developed OA concept, OA design, technical requirements and he was very passionate about OA.

    Then the guy who left, he appeared after OA v1 and he developed Firewall and HIPS core and also Firewall and HIPS part of UI. He was very passionate about OA as well, he could work up to 36h in line, but the work was too big and Mike proposed him to find somebody to help. The guy who left found another guy who started to help him. Then, after the first "matousec success" and after the free version was launched OA sales started to bring profit and Mike proposed to find one more coder. The guy who left found one more guy. But back in 2008 financial crisis forced Mike to reduce the team to 3 persons. That is to say Mike ran not only OA, his other project brought more profit, but OA took more time of him (he was the only one who did support) and so Mike hired a guy who made support.

    This is a short story about OA team during "Tallemu" times. If you try to search oasrv.exe for the substring "if you can" then you'll find some piece of poetry that can describe OA team spirit up to the time it was sold to Emsisoft. After it was sold the spirit had died, I believe in the next release this piece of poetry will be removed for it has nothing to do with the current OA team.

    Edit. Shame on me, I forgot to mention the team of testers. In the "Tallemu" times it was very dedicated and prominent team. Can't say what this team is like now.
     
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    well it is the piece of poetry that made it what it is today....:thumb: :thumb:
     
  21. emsisoft

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    Alex, please stop this conversation immediately and don't force me to post my point of view too.
     
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  23. alex_s

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    I believe the more points of view we know the more accurate picture we have. Your point of view is very interesting to me.
     
  24. SweX

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    Yes please, post your view so we get all cards on the table. :thumb:
    BTW why the harsh tone?

    Also, No offense Christian. But what right do you have demanding alex_s to stop this conversation?
     
  25. emsisoft

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    OK..

    You missed some very important points initially. E.g. that this 'guy' became product manager of Online Armor the day it was acquired by Emsisoft. So it was in full reponsibility of this guy to keep the things going as they were before, but he failed and was replaced by a new product manager later who did his best to clean up the mess - and still does with success.

    You also missed the point that this guy was dismissed recently because (not limited to) he was unable to integrate into the Emsisoft team. While working as lone fighter works in a 2-guys scenario, it doesn't work in a bigger company that relies on the power of its team.

    You also missed that the Online Armor code base, which was developed over many years mainly by this 'guy', misses essential code structure basics. That forces Emsisoft to rebuild the whole underlying core in order to make it ready for the next year's requirements. It's not a secret that Online Armor 5.x is the end of a long product technology lifecycle, but it's time to rebuild it from zero - that's what we plan to do.

    Emsisoft is not in situation to afford two completely separated development paths for OA and EAM. We must join our power to be successful.

    That's why our goal is to create a new, much more powerful realtime protection core which will act as base for upcoming versions of Online Armor and Emsisoft Anti-Malware. This was announced several times before and this goal didn't change recently.

    I can fully understand that this 'guy' isn't happy about the new situation, but changes are not always evil for a product.
     
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