Avira Software Has Gone To The Dark Side

I agree its sad. No it isnt sad it is ridiculous. Everyone can read into it the way they want to and I respect that, but others are on the verge of doing the exact same thing. I know they are. So it fairness to Avira, I only hope all of these same types of posts are posted with the same arguements for and against when others do it. . It is a sign of the times. Companies are spending tons of money fighting a losing battle. Where do they draw the line in between staying solvent and going belly up.

Cause then we are back to Mcafee and Norton, all over again.

 

this change is a bad move and avira is not the only av to choose so my advise is to move on life continues

 

Uniblue is Microsoft Gold certified partner.

http://www.uniblue.com/company/microsoftgold/

 

As is..."Big wheel keep on turning..."

 

Does the installer give you a choice installing the toolbar or not?

 

Not if you have the free version and want the web guard.

 

Trjam, I agree with you that they have a right to make money, they have to, people need to eat. The economy barely exists, the malware war seems to be going about as good as the scenario in the movie Terminator, without the benefit of going back in time to kill the guy that started the mess. But, look at it from the perspective that some of us do. You know the history of Ask, you've been around here a good long while and aren't stupid. That thing is bad news, even if the company were in the innocent hands of Winnie the Pooh. Is it as insidious as it used to be? Maybe not, but it still has issues, and as we all know, reputation follows you. Uniblue, I'm not as up to speed on and I readily admit it. But the little I do know doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings either.

It's that such a respectable company decided on this route instead of multiple things they could have done that is the real issue. And others are right, this could easily happen to other respectable companies. Some might still be saying "no way", but they don't run the company and they don't have stockholders and others to report to, and on and on. Again, even though some keep trying to make it so, it isn't just about free vs paid here.

 

And that's why no one takes you serious! Are you not part of the greater security community? There is nothing wrong with the paid version at this point, only the Free version which is not acceptable as it stands! We all wish that they remove this crapware and be once again and have good reputation with the Greater Security Community!

TH

 

Jesus. . Like it or not, this IS something to be concerned about...free or a paying customer. It appears their integrity has been compromised.

Just for the record, I have an AntiVir Premium license with a year and a half to go. I'm not a happy camper right now.

Later...

Bob

 

It sounds like you are saying "The End Justify the Means Whatever The Cost"
Well really now

 

Oh Lord, the great Web Police has spoken.

TH, you do have a vested interest in antics of this type by maware fighting companies. Let the user decide, let the user decide.

Oh, and one of your favorites may have a surprise for you, soon.

 

Well said my friend.

 

No doubt trj is having a bad hair day.

 

they should change it to demand toolbar not ask then .

Revo uninstaller. Uninstall the toolbar. Comodo also use to have this and they were removed from some sites because the installer did not ask to install it

 

First moral judgements, now prying into their financial affairs... I wonder what one would discover if the target were Symantec or Avast for that matter. As many have pointed out MS Essentials must have had a big impact not only for Avira but for the whole AV market which I think is a healthy situation for the Internet and the average user.

The AV landscape is changing, Avira is allegedly going through a change which if some people don't like they have many alternatives to choose from. To denigrate
a company the way it's been done in this thread is cheap and unfair especially considering that the company is not involved in the discussion.

As far as I'm concerned nothing has changed, I have received many e-mails from Avira only reporting changes to their signatures, but even if they implement what has been alleged, it won't affect my attitude as long as the options remain with the user.

 

There are valid concerns that are raised with all this. I don't think it is cheap at all to voice those concerns. If you want to turn a blind eye to it fine that is your business but calling Avira out on it is not cheap.

 

I make £1,000,000 a month cleaning Windows.

I invented a Anti-virus.

 

Has any representative of Avira posted in this thread? Not that I know of. This shows how they value the opinion and support of the Wilders members imo.

 

I've noticed that throughout this thread most of the posters who have defended Avira and/or denigrated those who are criticising Avira for this recent development, mention the toolbar in their posts, but usually fail to mention the Uniblue ads.

Why is that?

 

I'm a Avira user. Never had a problem with them fine av. We all have our own choices. You want to pay for protection your choice. You want to use a free product your choice. You don't want to use because of the current concerns its your choice. No one is forcing a thing onto another person. You like it or you don't.

 

OK, do you want to see it start go go down hill in any way that might cost costumiers

 

Do you really call this Wilder's thread "opinion (try defamation) and support of the Wilders members"? This is not the first time a denigration campaign has been
aired at Avira, and even when the whole thing was cleared by Avira officials, no one, not one single member ever apologized, claiming their ever status of God's police.

 

I in turn could turn around and say there is a certain amount of fanboy behavior in this thread and some would defend Avira no matter what they did.

 

Well I don't know about other issue you're referring to, but I feel Avira should be able to clarify things if they can. Or maybe I mean justify. Maybe they don't
have to yes. But it sure seems like an ethically questionable business tie-in, that
would inevitably prove controversial, so reaction here is no surprise, and I think justified also. People are disappointed with this move.