90-day trials of Panda

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by pbust, Feb 18, 2010.

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  1. Saraceno

    Saraceno Registered Member

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    That's why I downloaded antivirus pro, has what I need.

    But if you were running a small business, running an email program such as lotus notes, microsoft outlook etc, need the anti-spam controls, or have kids using your system, you'd want 'internet security'. If you have none of the above, you might want it for its added browser protection 'personal information filter', or backup and restore options.

    Global for those users who don't use Ccleaner, and want an all-in-one, remove temp files, add parental, or anti-spam controls, browser protection, and/or back-up features +5 gb online back-up etc etc.

    That's my take anyway.
     
  2. rogervernon

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    I tried Panda Anti Virus Pro, AFTER uninstalling Sandboxie, stopping Malwarebytes from starting with Windows, Uninstalling Panda Cloud AV, stopping Windows F7 firewall, cleaning the registry with Ccleaner and rebooting where necessary.
    Regrettably I still has issues with Windows Explorer locking the laptop, so a forced power-off shutdown was necessary.
    I uninstalled PAV Pro in safe mode, cleaned the registry and rebooted.
    Panda Cloud AV is now back on, presently with W7 firewall & Malwarebytes "live" and after a Winsock re-set, as a precaution, my connection etc. is absolutely fine.
    Lo siento, Pedro, but neither of your paid versions like my W7, 64 bit, laptop, which is an ACER 7540, with 3 GB RAM and an AMD Athlon dual core M300, 2.00 GHz processor.
    Your free Cloud AV is great, though!
     
  3. AvinashR

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    Even they can find parental control in Vista or Windows 7. Even if they install Windows Live Messenger in XP they will get MSN toolbar and parental control and many other features for free.

    They still need a good On-execution behavior guard.
     
  4. 3GUSER

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    That is a disasterous policy if at all can be called policy . In my opinion this is flow desing. I reported this a few months ago to numerous Panda employees but nobody cared to answer.

    Anyone can get infected using Panda - very easily . Panda is an excellent on-demand scanner but an awful (bad) defender.
     
  5. arjunned

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    But off course it doesnt work the same way in Panda Cloud AV; rite?
     
  6. 3GUSER

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    Yes , because CloudAV checks everything against the Cloud in real-time as far as I can notice during my testing with it
     
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    I know Saraceno already linked to the solutions, but here's a side by side comparison http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/solutions/ :)


    Cheers
     
  8. pbust

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    Yeah you are absolutely right..Its a disastrous policy.

    You know what, i kept that keygen running on my VM without sandbox for about two hours, but Panda didn't checked/blocked it.. As per Pbust, Panda AV on-access scanner is also connected to in-cloud technolgy, but has different implementation..according to him existing files sitting on the drive and being executed are checked against the cloud every so often (1 hour He believe)..But i have kept that keygen running for about two hours but nothing happened..

    I guess Panda really lost in-clouds...:D :D

    "Sorry just kidding Pbust"
     
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    Thank you JasSolo & pbust :thumb:
     
  11. pbust

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    No prob ance & AvinashR

    @AvinashR, can you tell me the MD5 checksum of the keygen to check out what's going on?
     
  12. AvinashR

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    At last you replied. I thought you took my wordings personally :rolleyes:, which leads me to apologize. Anyways please see the trailing MD5 and SHA1 of the keygen.

    MD5: aee8adffe400754da0a8f22c3a08c275
    SHA1: 5da75c6ed34f76ed7b7f3e76005950c295701a2e

    Requested you to kindly look into this matter. Hope you will follow up this matter personally :) .
     
  13. pbust

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    OK I see this sample is only detected by cloud-scan. I was wrong with the on-access implementation though, it's currently at 2 hours. However it should have been detected during download unless you had a timeout to the Collective Intelligence servers.

    Could you activate advanced logging to see what happened? Simply add the following registry key and reboot:

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Panda Software\Debug]
    "analysisLog"="C:\\Psscan.log"

    It's a ";" delimited logfile. The last few entries are for whether the file was checked against the cloud (TRUE/FALSE) and if there are any communiaction errors ("0" indicates no error). If under Vista/W7 change the log path to something different so that UAC doesn't prevent it from being written to.
     
  14. AvinashR

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    2 Hours? Don't you think its such a long time for a file which is already executed? Anyways i have added this registry entry and rebooted my machine. Now could you please tell me what i have to do further?
     
  15. pbust

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    I'll PM you some details for the troublehsooting. Thanks in advance!
     
  16. trjam

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    What is or what does on-access implementation mean or do.
     
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    That's what i am trying to understand from last 2 days...But i don't know where i have lost my Panda "In-Clouds":D

    I am trying to test its On-Execution Guard, but to my surprise its really lagging behind...
     
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    " Existing files sitting on the drive and being executed are checked against the cloud every so often (1 hour I believe) whereas files being downloaded are checked against the cloud in real-time."

    Basically it means, anything on the hard drive is checked every 2 hours, anything via web and email are checked via the cloud in real time.
     
  19. trjam

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    so does this mean that if something got on my hard drive, not via a internet app, it could do what it wanted for 2 hours before it would be caught.

    Also, sine I am obviously out of the loop, is this the norm for products.
     
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    That means i have to keep my keygen (Malicious) running for more then 4 Hours so that the same file can be checked atleast twice...This means if malicious file executes due to any reason, then Panda will take two hours to detect it...

    Nice Disastrous policy...
     
  21. Saraceno

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    It's always a gamble installing an AV on an already infected machine. A user, thinking they may have been infected, would run a full scan (Pedro, I know memory was checked by default to scan, I'd also enable the whole drive checked by default, so a user can uncheck, rather than 'check' to enable full drive scan).

    The way I see it, if a user installs the program (Panda), runs an on-demand scan, files are checked with the cloud and anything malicious is found. That's what I did. And the install process asks the user do they want to scan memory items and perform a full scan - which means malicious files will be found. Problem solved, well to me anyway.

    User connects to the internet, any file downloaded through browser or other internet facing application is checked real-time with the cloud. Problem solved, well to me anyway.

    If a user inserts a USB, panda vaccine will take care of the autorun. It's common, for all users inserting unknown USBs to right-click and scan the drive. I tell everyone I know this, so end result, files will be checked with cloud and user is protected.

    If a user is in the habit of installing programs 'not from the internet', just copying randomly off someone's USB drive (without scanning the contents), and doesn't perform a full scan on a possible 'questionable' system even when prompted, I have to say, no AV will protect this user. The user will have a virus/rogue in no time, no matter which AV used.

    Summary: scan the contents of your drive when you install Panda, and all your files will be checked with the cloud. You'll be fine from then on.
     
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  22. AvinashR

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    Bro Trjam,

    You are one of the die hard Panda Lover, but i wonder you haven't noticed this type thing....
     
  23. trjam

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    thanks Saraceno, that puts it into terms I can understand.:thumb:
     
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    I do agree with some of your valuable points, but do you know what is going on here with Panda? A file which was detected during on-demand scan as Trojan was not detected during on-execution. Whereas other AV's able to detect the same file during on-demand as well as on-execution. So don't you think there is something wrong?
     
  25. trjam

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    Why should I? I cant notice what I didnt understand. To me, it isnt a negative.
     
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