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Old September 15th, 2005, 08:03 AM
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Why is it the FBI can only arrest teenage crackers and not the real criminals?
You know the ones that used to be real blackhat hackers that did evil but now work for different branches of the Gov or AV- Spyware companies.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Teen...ack/1126738682

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Old September 15th, 2005, 08:19 AM
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Leave the best for themselves.
and show the world they are doing something.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 08:41 AM
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I've always wondered about that myself.. If they work for the good guys after they made some evil worm, apparently they will are immune. Go figure
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Old September 15th, 2005, 08:46 AM
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Juvenile jail is nothing compared to even a minimum-security jail.

..he might even get a job after he gets out..and it must suck that he can't use the net for 2 years.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 03:24 PM
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Not that I know anything about hacking...but wouldn't a real hacker, who's after something big...cover his tracks with a lot of proxies (including RAT'd proxies) from around the world...and make it so that their RAT'd proxies wiped their data after a few days ?

The other thing, from that news article, looks like the company that got hacked did the investigation, and presented the evidence to the FBI...all that would be left is for the FBI to verify it all.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 06:32 PM
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Not that I know anything about hacking...but wouldn't a real hacker, who's after something big...cover his tracks with a lot of proxies (including RAT'd proxies) from around the world...and make it so that their RAT'd proxies wiped their data after a few days ?

The other thing, from that news article, looks like the company that got hacked did the investigation, and presented the evidence to the FBI...all that would be left is for the FBI to verify it all.
That's pretty much what I was thinking, the real hackers are going to know more about how not get caught.. teenage hackers aren't going to be as cautious. Seasoned paid professionals will always be better, no matter what field.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 07:35 PM
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My point was not the level of experteise but rather the GOV going after teens and the publicity around it all.

Listen carfully. The GOV is not very stupid at all but they have all the B U cratic ******** to swollow thru.
They can catch the real crooks but what I am asking is why they chose to let out the stupid s--- of catthing a teen. and not oh yes WE caught a real baddie but decided to hire his ass.

I tell ya, when I drink I get ornery.
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Old September 15th, 2005, 07:41 PM
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True pro hackers know how to cover their tracks (These are rarely caught and perhaps are never detected, meaning companies don't know they've been hacked). There are those hackers that are skilled, but don't know when not to hack. (These are those that are caught; EG, Kevin Mitnick). Then there are the script kiddies who are poorly skilled and can't cover their butts at all. (These are caught).

It's like a pyramid...the top hackers at the top (fewest in number, highest in skill), and the script kiddies who make up the bottom (largest in number, lowest in skill)
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Old September 16th, 2005, 05:25 PM
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More than likely it's a PR thing...see we can catch hackers.

Many Govt's hold a particular view when it comes to security ie. it doesn't matter whether or not people are in fact safe...just so long as they feel safe.

The second part of the PR thing is...everyone knows we have a problem (ie hackers)...now see, we are doing something about it ! After all, a govt that doesn't do anything about a problem is seen to be ignoring the problem.

Also, positive publicity helps public servants get promotions...fills in their resume's etc.
 

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