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Old May 27th, 2003, 02:06 PM
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Default Looking for a good AV.

Well I've tried tons of AV and haven't been satisfied by any but Norton but it is far too much of a resource hog. I've used

F-Secure version
Mcafee (a long time ago and it seemed to have disagreements with my computer)
Kaspersky
RAV
F-Prot
Panda Titanium
AVG
BitDefender

Okay well I have a few requirements....no conflicts with my computer obviously, when I disable it, I want it disabled. Good AV and AT in one. It can be bloaty but I rather not. It doesn't have to be free. It should have exclusion features for it's autoscan and manual scan. It also MUST ask me what to do. It shouldn't just quarantine, clean or block. If you guys could give me a good AV even if it was on the above list I may rethink trying it. Well thanks in advance.

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Old May 27th, 2003, 02:28 PM
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F-Secure version (Never tried it)

Mcafee (a long time ago and it seemed to have disagreements with my computer) (Well, I had Ver 6 and I HATED IT! But Version 7 is very nice! They added Forum Support at McAfee and it runs smoothly.. I would recommend you buy it off the internet, however...That is the updated vesrion (They fixed some uninstall issues and some issues with the Palm scanner) The retail boxed version probably won't be the new improved one.. Or, you could buy it, and go to forum support and ask them to send you the updated version.. I would not recommend McAfee Internet Security 5.0, though.,, I had some problesm with it, although it's okay now.. I would just get the basic AV Firewall..No problems with resource usage, although it can be bloatware, but if it works, SO WHAT!

Kaspersky - Depending on your system, this may be a bad resource hog.

RAV - Decent AV.. Try it out.. Support is VERY Good!

F-Prot - Never tried it for more than a day.

Panda Titanium - Too simplistic.. Lacks some features...

AVG- I don't like this one bit.. Slow updates.. It's free and that's what's it's worth... Though this guy named "Adiel" swears by it, I don't like it.

BitDefender - Never passed a Virus Bulletin.. I didn't care for it...

> Okay well I have a few requirements....no conflicts with my computer obviously, when I disable it, I want it disabled. Good AV and AT in one. It can be bloaty but I rather not. It doesn't have to be free. It should have exclusion features for it's autoscan and manual scan. It also MUST ask me what to do. It shouldn't just quarantine, clean or block. If you guys could give me a good AV even if it was on the above list I may rethink trying it. Well thanks in advance.

Try McAfee. It's configurable in every way... I hope you are talking Win XP...
It covers both Viruses and Trojans, other malware very well...
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Old May 27th, 2003, 03:17 PM
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To Balbanebeoulve from Firefighter!

Your requirements are almost impossible to fill, but after those all above try DrWeb 4.29c! Maybe it is the only one that remains.

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Old May 27th, 2003, 06:14 PM
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quoting: balbanebeoulve link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63290 date=1054058812]
Well I've tried tons of AV and haven't been satisfied by any but Norton but it is far too much of a resource hog.

I used to think the same thing about Norton. And, it's true that there are other av's that use less resources, but from the list you gave, I would still put Norton in the top 3--bloatware or not. I have come to the opinion that Norton is not as bloated as it's made out to be.

Intrusive,
absolutely though.

McAfee was mentioned by Shooter, and I would agree--it's a good choice as an alternative--as is KAV.

Those would be my picks (from your list) as alternatives for NAV.
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Old May 27th, 2003, 06:20 PM
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A newcomer on the block and still in Beta, but is free and looks quite promissing is Gladiator:

http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/

You can check out their forums at:

http://forum.gladiator-antivirus.com

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Old May 27th, 2003, 06:35 PM
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GAV would make an excellent backup scanner. I really like it and it's come a long way!
As for the main AV defense, NOD or DrWeb !
Two of the best IMHO !

I also liked RAV !

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Old May 27th, 2003, 06:45 PM
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Awww damn my post was erased because I didn't put email. Anyway what I said was mcafee didn't like zonealarm and well dr web was just weird
Errand I heard nod wasn't good with trojans....
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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
quoting: balbanebeoulve link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63322 date=1054075558]
what I said was mcafee didn't like zonealarm

Errand I heard nod wasn't good with trojans....

If you use McAfee, You can uninstall ZoneAlarm and use McAfee's Firewall. I use that now on one of my systems and I LOVE it!

As for NOD32, Yes, ESET will be one of the first to tell you that Their proggie is not a Trojan Specialist. That's why I use McAfee.. It does very well with viruses, trojans, and other malware.. Some folks like layered protection. With NOD32, you NEED layered protection LOL.. That's one thng I learned in the last year I have been using it (I use it on another computer, in conjunction with GAV Free... )

As for GAV, when it becomes GOLD and hits the streets in the end of the summer, I intend to test it and replace one of my AV's... It should also pass the VB awards, from what I hear from MIchael and the GAV Group...
GAV has REALLY impresed me...
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Old May 27th, 2003, 07:56 PM
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GAV comes in the next versions with 2 scan engines and a "unpack support modus" this means if you scan with a other AV GAV does block this scan until the file is unpacked and points via a file system driver this handle to the new unpacked file
This means you can unpack than with NAV
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Old May 27th, 2003, 08:04 PM
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quoting: xor link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63327 date=1054079775]
GAV comes in the next versions with 2 scan engines and a "unpack support modus" this means if you scan with a other AV GAV does block this scan until the file is unpacked and points via a file system driver this handle to the new unpacked file
This means you can unpack than with NAV


That sounds very good xor. Can't wait .

balbanebeoulve - I am currently using PC-Cillin 2003 and find it good. To compliment that I have GAV as my on demand scanner.

Regards, Jade.
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Old May 27th, 2003, 08:10 PM
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I had to ck it out xor!!!


http://www.gladiator-antivirus.com/gfx/hot-xxx.jpg
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Old May 27th, 2003, 08:18 PM
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ROFL 5872 hits from wilders so far on this picture - that says all
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Old May 27th, 2003, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
quoting: Bowserman link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63329 date=1054080260]
Quote:
quoting: xor link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63327 date=1054079775]
GAV comes in the next versions with 2 scan engines and a "unpack support modus" this means if you scan with a other AV GAV does block this scan until the file is unpacked and points via a file system driver this handle to the new unpacked file
This means you can unpack than with NAV


That sounds very good xor. Can't wait .

balbanebeoulve - I am currently using PC-Cillin 2003 and find it good. To compliment that I have GAV as my on demand scanner.

Regards, Jade.

I also use PC-cillin w/GAV as an on-demand and BOClean as the "bouncer" on my main box, and like that setup also.

GAV is coming along. Real obvious that Michael is working his keister off to get it up to snuff.
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Old May 27th, 2003, 10:09 PM
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well dr web was just weird
Errand I heard nod wasn't good with trojans....

I thought DrWeb was fairly straight forward.

Nod is NOT trojan software. Neither is DrWeb.

You should use anti trojan software for that sole purpose if you are concerned about trojans and the like.

Try Trojan Hunter or TDS from here

http://www.wilders.org/anti_trojans.htm

Two very good ATs' !

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Old May 27th, 2003, 10:11 PM
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ROFL 5872 hits from wilders so far on this picture - that says all

Ok Xor
...I'll bite !!

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Old May 28th, 2003, 03:13 AM
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based on eprsonal experience i ahve to say KAV is easily the best when it comes to detection, both viruses and trojans. it slows down a bit though, but the 4.5 beta that u can get from ftp.kaspersky.com is a lot faster than the 4.0x version. so fast in fact i recently replaced my drweb (which is lightning fast) with KAV. KAV5 which will go beta in a month or 2 apparently is supposed to be even faster. so kav or drweb are my recommendations. drweb hardly uses any resources and is so fast u dont notice that its installed at all.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 04:45 AM
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Hey JimIT,

Quote:
quoting: JimIT link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63318 date=1054073698]

Quote:
quoting: balbanebeoulve link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63290 date=1054058812]
Well I've tried tons of AV and haven't been satisfied by any but Norton but it is far too much of a resource hog.

I used to think the same thing about Norton.

Are you really sure about that:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=8587;start=15

Do you consider this as a ressource hog?

Quote:
quoting: JimIT link=board=24;threadid=9659;start=0#msg63318 date=1054073698]McAfee was mentioned by Shooter, and I would agree--it's a good choice as an alternative--as is KAV.

If you call NAV a ressource hog, how would you call KAV then? LOL

Just wondering.

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Old May 28th, 2003, 09:10 AM
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I think you are right Tahoma The KAV 5 will be really worth looking into and fast and thorough with its excellent virus / trojon detection. I think It will leave the rest for dust
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Old May 28th, 2003, 09:51 AM
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I used to think the same thing about Norton. <snip!>
I have come to the opinion that Norton is not as bloated as it's made out to be.

Hi Patrice.

Above is what I originally posted.

And yes, I'm sure about that.

FWIW: My w98se box after a clean install of the OS has a 98% resource free reading. After installing Norton, it only drops to 96% with real-time scanning enabled, etc. This is an AMD k62 w/128 RAM.

Avast! 4 uses comparable resources, so to clarify , I don't think Norton is as "resource-hungry" as it's legend would lead one to believe.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 05:59 PM
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Well my box didn't start up so fast with norton installed but with avg, started up like a breeze.
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Old May 28th, 2003, 06:52 PM
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Well my box didn't start up so fast with norton installed but with avg, started up like a breeze.
If you wan't to use a Free AV, I would recommend Avast.
You have to register the product in order to receive your FREE regkey.

Try here http://www.wilders.org/free_tools.htm
or
http://www.avast.com/i_idt_1016.html

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Old May 29th, 2003, 02:21 AM
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I like KAV too

But GAV is very useful already and unpack support for other programs is just generous, useful, and needed Superb !
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Hello balbanebeoulve

Why take our word for it? Take a look at Virus Bulletin: http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?table

This is a third-party independent testing organisation. They do not work for any anti-virus company. You will find the information there very valuable.

The layered approach is best. Proper defences require proper software in place. Suggested is

A good firewall - such as Outpost: http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/

A good anti-virus program - such as NOD32:
http://www.nod32.com/products/95.htm

A good anti-trojan program - such as TDS3:
http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/

A good anti-worm program - such as WormGuard:
http://wormguard.diamondcs.com.au/

A good anti-spy program - such as SpywareBlaster:
http://www.wilderssecurity.net/spywareblaster.html

An anti-spy tool/browser anti-hijacker tool) - such as Spybot S&D:
http://security.kolla.de/

Some you may have already. If you prefer other choices for the programs then alright but each categorie does something the others do not. A great anti-virus program does not necessarily catch all trojans; a great browser protection program most likely will not catch worms. A layered protection scheme is best to be protected. Hopefully this will not bury you in too much information. If you have any questions or need any kind of help at all you can come here and those in the know will be happy to help.

Best wishes.

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Old May 29th, 2003, 03:48 AM
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Hello Qsection,
I think it's hard to say a program is good and another one will be not...
I think a good product is when you got satisfaction with in regards of the problem encountered.
For exemple we told me the best AV in the world was the russian Karpersky program, quite expensive and very difficult to configurate when you are a newbie....
For trojan's betrayal I found Trojan Remover, I bought it as I found a very easy program to use, no knowledge needed to be able to scan your computer, as well as the fact to detect the two parts of that particular virus: the "spread" and the "worm", through the two performants scan embaded into the program.
It's the best relevance "quality-price" in regards of the service given....
I think today almost all programs are performant, except that you will prefer one from another one, when you understood how it works and you get a positive answer....
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Awww damn my post was erased because I didn't put email. Anyway what I said was mcafee didn't like zonealarm and well dr web was just weird
Errand I heard nod wasn't good with trojans....

Nopd Is not goot with trojans because it is an anti virus not an anti trojan, Use Nod32 along side TAUSCAN trojan deffence and you will be safe as the bank of England.

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