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Old March 20th, 2005, 03:45 AM
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hi i'm almost a novice!
i need a secure firewall
now i use outpost trial version 2.5 but i think it asks a lot of resourse like 30 mb of ram
can u advise me some great software , i would like a secure and light firewall


ps. is possibily to run outpost only when i 'm in the net?? so keep free resourse? i think no because it runs like a service on wxp sp 2
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Old March 20th, 2005, 03:54 AM
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A search on this subforum itself will lead you to many similar threads with a TONNE of info... and many many brilliant arguments.

read them first.

If you're still confused, then you can ask specific questions.

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Old March 20th, 2005, 04:08 AM
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For a novice, nothing can beat ZoneAlarm Free. It comes with a pre-configured set of rules. Very easy, yet effective. Once you get used to use it, you can switch to more professional applications.

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Old March 20th, 2005, 05:38 AM
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it's normal that outpost needs 30mb of ram to run?

is really more sicure the version 2 then the version 1?
because the version 1 is free
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Old March 20th, 2005, 06:59 AM
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Hi mantra

I am running Outpost Pro and have just checked the task manager - 17mb not 30mb. Read this topic on their knowledge base http://agnitum.com/support/kb/articl...000043&lang=en and also consider adding Outpost's logs to your AV's exclusion list as I have found with these steps the RAM usage is a lot less than it was when I first started to use the software.

Just noted after closing and opening as described above I am at 5.5mb now!
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Old March 20th, 2005, 07:00 AM
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NetVeda is low on resources and so is Jetico but then it is not for novice, Kerio 2.15 only consumes 5mb but then again not for firt timers, so NetVeda looks to be a good choice for you.
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Old March 20th, 2005, 07:03 AM
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it's normal that outpost needs 30mb of ram to run?
Yes & no, i think it's a small bug, Outpost requests a certain amount of ram at startup, on mine usually between 21-27mb, now if you open the GUI after it's been running some time & close it down again then you will see a big drop, on mine down to 1,4mb and then settles around 4-5mb, but there is no difference in performance.
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is really more sicure the version 2 then the version 1?
because the version 1 is free
Yes, version 1 is several years old now and not updated, if you want something upto date you should definitely look for version 2.5. If you only want something free, then i would use Zonealarm free instead.
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Old March 20th, 2005, 08:32 AM
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thanks mates
i know zonealarm need tons of resourse
what about Sygate Personal Firewall Pro about resourse?

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Yes & no, i think it's a small bug, Outpost requests a certain amount of ram at startup, on mine usually between 21-27mb, now if you open the GUI after it's been running some time & close it down again then you will see a big drop, on mine down to 1,4mb and then settles around 4-5mb, but there is no difference in performance.


is there a version without this bug


and is possible to run outpost only the i 'm on the net

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Old March 20th, 2005, 09:56 AM
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Sygate Pro is very good, has an IDS system which gets updated regularly, only problem is that it has problems if you are running software proxy or Avast anti virus with web shield enabled.
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Old March 20th, 2005, 10:14 AM
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is there a version without this bug
"Bug" is just my interpretation, and no, not to my knowledge. Please read this thread from the Outpostfirewall forum regarding memory usage.
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and is possible to run outpost only the i 'm on the net
Do you mean, only when you are surfing?
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Old March 20th, 2005, 11:24 AM
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yes mate
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Old March 20th, 2005, 05:28 PM
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hi i'm almost a novice!
i need a secure firewall
What type of features are you looking for in a firewall? Are you comfortable working with rules?
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now i use outpost trial version 2.5 but i think it asks a lot of resourse like 30 mb of ram
can u advise me some great software , i would like a secure and light firewall
Do you have an older system where resource usage would be a major concern?

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ps. is possibily to run outpost only when i 'm in the net?? so keep free resourse? i think no because it runs like a service on wxp sp 2
Are you on dial-up?

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Old March 20th, 2005, 07:03 PM
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thanks mates
i know zonealarm need tons of resourse
what about Sygate Personal Firewall Pro about resourse?

On the contrary, ZoneAlarm doesn't use much resources at all from my experience. There are many others that use more, including Sygate.
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Old March 20th, 2005, 08:03 PM
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Kerodo .
You must be talking about the free version .? Unless something MAJOR has changed , the Pro 5.5 eats it up .
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Old March 20th, 2005, 08:09 PM
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With pro, it was using about 13 mb of memory on my machine. Not real low, but not exactly eating it up.
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13 is very low on my scale . Especially with the addons they have . They must have changed some things .
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Old March 20th, 2005, 08:15 PM
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Hollywood - I got about the same as Diver here, somewhere in the vicinity of 13 megs, with the pro 5.5 version. Could be lighter, but that's nowhere near what Outpost, Tiny and Kerio 4 use.
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Old March 20th, 2005, 09:04 PM
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Hi Kerodo .
Outpost is the lightest , by far , in that group of three . 13 is kind of light though . Considering the cookie and referrer controls along with script control as well . No one can argue that . I am surprised . Outpost Pro uses abot 18 on my machine . Easily acceptable considering the power of it . So , very sorry I interupted . But , I learned that , at least , ZAP has changed resource useage . Now , if they could make it a bit stronger , less buggy , and get some customer support , they may make a comeback . I won't hold my breath though . lol . Thanks for the info guys .
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Old March 21st, 2005, 02:06 AM
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@crazym

thanks for the answer!

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What type of features are you looking for in a firewall? Are you comfortable working with rules?

yes i think it 's almost easy

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Are you on dial-up?

i have a ADSL dial up modem and an ethernet card
so i can use both....
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Old March 21st, 2005, 02:44 AM
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Hi mantra

If you are comfortable with rules, something light on resources and prefer free you might want to look at Kerio 2.1.5
(direct download).

If you decide to try it this is also worth a read:
BlitzenZeus Kerio v2.x Default Replacement Rules

You might also want to look through this post:
List of free firewalls

There is no simple answer for what is the right firewall. There are lots of good ones out there, you just have to find the one that is best for you.

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ZoneAlarm is just right but make sure you turn on "Advanced Program Control"
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Old March 21st, 2005, 08:32 AM
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Re: ZA

I recommend you leave off advanced program control, unless you want to be responding to pop up warnings all day long for a system of protection that does not know the difference between benign activity and bad activity.
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Old March 21st, 2005, 12:35 PM
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@Crazym thanks
about my question to run outpost only when i'm on line possibily?
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about my question to run outpost only when i'm on line possibily?
If you disconnect from the Internet you could disable your firewall. Most will now run as a service, so there may be a few more steps than just closing the UI to shut everything down. Keep in mind if you have a dial up connection, if you shut it down and have the misfortune of getting some malware on your system it could connect out without your knowing or being prompted.

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13 is very low on my scale
Wha?? ?? Why? Did I do something wrong?
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13 is kind of light though
What? how'dyou know?
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