Opera 12.00 Final

[abu shofwan]

i found it slower the 11.64 in loading webpage

opposite .Very FAST indeed.

bloody awesome!

it looks like the 'pre-rendering' issues i have been using all these years have been fixed.
i've been waiting a long time for Opera to fix this before i could start using it.
but i'm a patient man. lol

unfortunately, there is no addon like NoScript but you can add a "Enable JavaScript" button anywhere you want in the browser.
that's not a new feature but it's very nice to be able to toggle js on and off on the fly.

i think we have a winner!

+1
IMO,this is best release so far. Really liking it.
I think,its same as Chrome on term of SPEED.

[Daveski17]

I think the 64 bit version is pretty good. The PortableApps version is working well. It seems fast & responsive.

I agree it easily seems to rival Chrome for speed, especially the 64 bit version.

[Ocky]

Originally Posted by Nebulus

The thing is that they disappear from the list only to reappear when you restart Opera (I can't find a rule for the cookies that show this behaviour, because some of them are deleted properly, some not).

Strange, I have not experienced that. (Maybe there is a difference in linux - who knows).

The other problem is more serious, because if I decide that a site is not allowed to set cookies and I tell it so in "Edit site preferences", the browser keeps storing new cookies and even send them back to the site

Other points to consider:-

The cookie manager does not only show domains that store cookies but also domains on which you've changed something in the page (edit) preference (eg. turned off/on javascript).

You could also delete the cookies4.dat file either manually or with something like Bleachbit/CCleaner.

[mantra]

Originally Posted by abu shofwan

opposite .Very FAST indeed.

under 64 bit only or 32bit too?
maybe i have some extension to disable

[vasa1]

Originally Posted by Ocky

Strange, I have not experienced that. (Maybe there is a difference in linux - who knows).
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Are the bugs visible to anyone or does one have to have an account? The Firefox, Chrome, and Launchpad pages are accessible (with certain exceptions) to anyone.
In any case, it would be nice if people referenced bug numbers.

[abu shofwan]

Originally Posted by mantra

under 64 bit only or 32bit too?

Both XP & W7 x32

No difference even sandboxed

[vasa1]

Omelion looks like a good starting point for a skin.

[Ocky]

Originally Posted by vasa1

Are the bugs visible to anyone or does one have to have an account? The Firefox, Chrome, and Launchpad pages are accessible (with certain exceptions) to anyone.
In any case, it would be nice if people referenced bug numbers.

No, unfortunately the public does not have access, only the developers. Reasons given can be found here
They are worried about ..

The risk is in automated systems that are not currently being used for this sort of thing, and there are a lot of issues to take into consideration. A slip-up would not merely lead to publicity, but could in a worst case scenario lead to a customer's data ending up in a competitor's hands. That might be unlikely, but "unlikely" probably isn't good enough when you are risking bankruptcy due to the resulting lawsuits. In other words, one would likely have to spend a lot of time and money on making sure that every possible hole is plugged.

This is merely one of many reasons why it's more complicated than you might think.

[vasa1]

Originally Posted by Ocky

No, unfortunately the public does not have access, only the developers. Reasons given can be found here
They are worried about ..

Thanks for the explanation!
On to something entirely different ...

Sometime ago we talked about Opera's cache. Does that still work for you? I'm seeing a file size of max 1740 KB.

[Ocky]

Originally Posted by vasa1

Thanks for the explanation!
On to something entirely different ...

Sometime ago we talked about Opera's cache. Does that still work for you? I'm seeing a file size of max 1740 KB.

Yes, damn, I noticed that as well. In the process of downloading a 310 MB video from youtube. Good that I checked as there were already many 1740KB files in cache. (Files under 1740KB seem OK).
Anyway for youtube specifically you can use https://addons.opera.com/en/extensio...-2/?display=en
Works well. Firefox's video download helper is King in this regard.

[vasa1]

Originally Posted by Ocky

Yes, damn, I noticed that as well. In the process of downloading a 310 MB video from youtube. Good that I checked as there were already many 1740KB files in cache. (Files under 1740KB seem OK).
Anyway for youtube specifically you can use https://addons.opera.com/en/extensio...-2/?display=en
Works well. Firefox's video download helper is King in this regard.

Okay, thanks for confirming that. So it's not just Firefox (and Seamonkey) but Opera as well! Hmmm ...

[stapp]

Really enjoying Opera 12. (xp and Win7)

No issues so far.

Have set a higher websize font and it is sticking for me now.

Have ticked 'do not track me' in advanced security prefs.

And so far not an icon has disappeared from the favorites bar

[Daveski17]

Originally Posted by stapp

And so far not an icon has disappeared from the favorites bar

Favourites you mean? I take it you haven't downloaded the UK English dictionary yet. LOL

Honestly though, I'm finding both 64/32 bit & portable versions are running very well. I haven't tried the fave bar yet. I'm tempted now though.

[Firecat]

Regarding hardware acceleration, Opera says they left it disabled by default because their software back-end is still faster in a few cases. Does anyone know any case where Vega actually outperforms hardware accelerated rendering?

Other than that, this release is great. I have little else to say since I was already a longtime Opera user to begin with.

[vasa1]

One thing I noticed was that they're pushing for themes over skins. From the little I read, skins are more customizable.

This will remain a technical detail for designers to consider, whether they want to use skins or the new and lightweight themes to enhance the look of Opera. The old skin system is of course very powerful, but at the same time complex and hard to ensure compatibility across versions of Opera and different operating systems. We will generally recommend designers to use the lightweight version.

Source

[vasa1]

And one feature that I'd like to see is caret browsing (navigation) but I don't think it's present.

[Ocky]

Originally Posted by vasa1

And one feature that I'd like to see is caret browsing (navigation) but I don't think it's present.

Oh, something new to me, but not sure how it will benefit me.
What about mouse gestures ? Very useful in Opera, but nothing like it for Firefox ?

http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/gestures/

The screenshot shows mouse gestures when visual hints are enabled. Needless to say I never had them enabled - this just for illustration.

[vasa1]

Originally Posted by Ocky

Oh, something new to me, but not sure how it will benefit me.
What about mouse gestures ? Very useful in Opera, but nothing like it for Firefox ?

http://www.opera.com/browser/tutorials/gestures/

The screenshot shows mouse gestures when visual hints are enabled. Needless to say I never had them enabled - this just for illustration.

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I find caret browsing convenient on my laptop and did try mouse gestures but they just aren't for me. (Even Midori has them, IIRC.)

[Arcanez]

Since I installed Opera 12 x64 I don't have sound anywhere in my webbrowser be it youtube or something else. Updated Flash Player but that didn't fix the issue. Does anyone have a solution for that?

ok figured out it's weird buggy Appguard blocking it....

[moontan]

Originally Posted by Ocky

Oh, something new to me, but not sure how it will benefit me.
What about mouse gestures ? Very useful in Opera, but nothing like it for Firefox ?

The screenshot shows mouse gestures when visual hints are enabled. Needless to say I never had them enabled - this just for illustration.

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if you are going to mouse gestures you might as well use a 'global app instead of something that is browser based only.

[Daveski17]

Originally Posted by Zero3K

There is an extension like NoScript. You can get it at https://addons.opera.com/en/extensio...ts/?display=en.

I've used this, it hasn't been updated since July 4, 2011 however.

[Ocky]

Originally Posted by moontan

if you are going to mouse gestures you might as well use a 'global app instead of something that is browser based only.

Only in Opera for me It's a speed enhancer for me; faster than keyboard s/cuts and much faster than clicking back/forward arrows (i.e. if you have a mouse as opposed to touchpad.)

[Daveski17]

I've been setting-up the 64 bit version on my desktop PC. I only have this version installed. I'm still impressed by the overall speed. No real problems, had a crash after closing 32 tabs, although everything is fine now. I don't normally open that many tabs at a time.

Haven't lost a favicon yet either ...

Overall I'm impressed so far.

[moontan]

it opens web sites/pages faster than Firefox.
i've just tested a whole bunch of sites on Google News.

this skin is just beautiful!:
http://my.opera.com/community/custom.../info/?id=8740

[Daveski17]

Originally Posted by moontan

it opens web sites/pages faster than Firefox.
i've just tested a whole bunch of sites on Google News.

this skin is just beautiful!:
http://my.opera.com/community/custom.../info/?id=8740

Yeah, I've just tried that skin thanks. I've decided to make a clean install on my notebook. It's not breaking pages like it was.