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Old May 24th, 2012, 01:25 AM
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I've had two kernel updates just a few days apart. The first update did not prompt for a reboot, which I found odd. Today's update did.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 02:46 AM
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Looking for rebootless kernel updates in Bing, I found an interesting link

http://www.ksplice.com/

An Oracle product, btw!
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Old May 24th, 2012, 06:36 AM
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Looking for rebootless kernel updates in Bing, I found an interesting link

http://www.ksplice.com/

An Oracle product, btw!
Yes, but also available for Ubuntu and Fedora. I had seen it before but haven't tested it yet.

Has anybody tried it?
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Old May 24th, 2012, 06:37 AM
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Ksplice is nice but not really worth using unless uptime is insanely important such as on a server.

Most kernel updates you'll have to restart.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 06:40 AM
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Most kernel updates you'll have to restart.

But obviously not with Ksplice ...
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Old May 24th, 2012, 06:46 AM
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Not sure if ksplice is considered ready for mass deployment outside of a server. Might be though.

@PeterPan,

Oracle bought ksplice and everyone basically breathed a heavy sigh of "god damnit" when they did.
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@PeterPan,

Oracle bought ksplice and everyone basically breathed a heavy sigh of "god damnit" when they did.

Isn't Oracle improving the product faster/better with its more abundant resources? But I know this isn't always the case (OpenOffice vs LibreOffice comes to mind).
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God no.

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It was developed by Ksplice, Inc. until 21 July 2011, when Oracle acquired Ksplice, started offering support for Oracle Linux. Support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux was dropped and turned into a free 30-day trial for RHEL customers as an incentive to migrate to Oracle Linux Premier Support.
Any time you read "Oracle did X" you can assume that X was a bad idea/ bad for everyone.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 07:05 AM
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That says nothing about improvements in the Ksplice software. I'm not really interested in propaganda about "for the common good" (lol), I'm interested in tech advancements.
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And one day you'll realize why that's so silly.

edit: *hopefully*
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I was using ksplice back before the Oracle acquisition.
It was a great and robust product.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 10:02 AM
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I was using ksplice back before the Oracle acquisition.
It was a great and robust product.
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Thank! Will try it on Ubuntu.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 10:12 AM
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There's also kexec, which Debian Squeeze live media enable by default. It's not terribly useful on a desktop. OTOH, it's probably very useful on a server with 128 GB of RAM.
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I just installed ksplice from ksplice.com (I had to install curl first - obviously a missing dependency). So I'm waiting for the next kernel update to see how it goes

I noticed that there is also a ksplice package in universe. I had tried it before but didn't find anything to configure so I decided to try the other one. Does anybody know about the differences between both packages?
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Isn't Oracle improving the product faster/better with its more abundant resources? But I know this isn't always the case (OpenOffice vs LibreOffice comes to mind).

Oracle has stopped working on OpenOffice all together and have said they are going to leave it to the community, so that might be why you notice it isn't developing as fast as it used to when Sun worked on it.
 

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