PCKeeper Defragmentation tool

[MerleOne]

Hi,

I have been trialling since a few days the disk defragmenter in PCKeeper and found it to be very effective, albeit lacking some features (like file exclusions).

It makes wonders on my 7 years old XP system which more responsive now.

The rest of the tools are "so-so". I guess they got their defragmentation tool from a third party and would like to know which one.

Has anyone seen a similar defragmenter ? One feature is that all folders are placed at the beginning of the drive and a huge empy space is also placed just after the folders. The rest is pretty well packed. IOBit Smart Defrag hare some similarities, but I find there is too many small non contiguous spaces after a full optimized defrag.

Thanks.

PS : sorry for posting in the wrong area and thanks for moving the post into the right one.

[dav88]

Sounds like Puran Defrag with all options checkmarked.

[MerleOne]

Originally Posted by dav88

Sounds like Puran Defrag with all options checkmarked.

Thanks. I would agree, for the system partition, but I think that, for data partitions, Puran doesn't free space at the beginning of the partition.

Also, I have one PC where PCkeeper defrag exits with an error (connection to the service lost or something like that), and where Puran 7.3 works fine until the end.

[zfactor]

screens??

[MerleOne]

Good idea, I'll try to perform some screen captures and post them here, if I can manage...

[MerleOne]

Here they are :
After PCKeeper :


After UD3 in consolidate mode :


After PuranDefrag7.3 :


After O&O Defrag 15 in space mode :


After another PCKeeper :


PS : sorry for the basic layout.

[andylau]

It seems an OEM version of UltimateDefrag(from the screenshots above)

[MerleOne]

Originally Posted by andylau

It seems an OEM version of UltimateDefrag(from the screenshots above)

Hi,

For me UD3 and PCKeeper seem to have very different strategies :
- UD3 places dirs close to the MFT and leaves no free space at the beginning of the drive
- PCK places dir at the beginning of the drive and then a big free space area

Puran is close to PCK, but faster and leaves no free space at the beginning for non system drives.

EDITED : Oops, I forgot to mention I used UD3 to display the various maps and get a valid comparison of the resulting layout. PCKeeper's GUI is very different :

[HowardB]

Grouping the directory files together can help in some instances and not in other but the built-in defrag as well as the others mentioned in this thread are a reactive approach to fragmentation and provides a temporary solution to an on-going problem. Just because you defrag your PC, doesn’t mean the problem has been solved. The minute you finish running your defrag, your PC will once again start accumulating increasingly more fragmentation with each and every use, so you feel like you are fighting a losing battle.

It also means that your PC is wasting resources by first writing fragmented files to your hard drive, and then requiring the defrag engine (built-in or other defrag only solution) to go to work locating and consolidating your files so that they that they are contiguous. This reactive, after-the-fact approach to fragmentation still leaves you vulnerable to an unreliable and slow performing PC.

The ideal solution is fragmentation prevention. Implemented as a proactive solution it provided a more complete solution that keeps your disk performing at optimum speeds at all times. Diskeeper is unique as it combines the best of both worlds by automatically handling any fragmentation that is already hurting your disk performance, and combining that with a fragmentation prevention technology that stops future fragmentation before it happens.

When your files are written to the disk contiguously (without fragmentation) rather than scattered across your disk, your PC doesn’t have to work as hard to read or write your files. Plus as an added bonus, the reduction in disk activity actually extends the life of your hard drive by an additional 1-3 years - saving you money in replacement costs.
Send me a private message for further information.

Thanks,

Howard

[Isso]

Howard,

File system driver is writing the files in a manner to get the best possible I/O throughput. Any intervention by a third party component for "fragmentation prevention" will result in imminent degradation of file system performance.

There is no magic here, and I personally prefer to defragment the drive from time to time, than to have my drive performance constantly degraded.

The only solution that I believe could make some sense is writing a propriatary file system driver that implements better file placement logic than standard one. But it's close to impossible (at least for NTFS).

[MerleOne]

Originally Posted by Isso

Howard,

File system driver is writing the files in a manner to get the best possible I/O throughput. Any intervention by a third party component for "fragmentation prevention" will result in imminent degradation of file system performance.

There is no magic here, and I personally prefer to defragment the drive from time to time, than to have my drive performance constantly degraded.

The only solution that I believe could make some sense is writing a propriatary file system driver that implements better file placement logic than standard one. But it's close to impossible (at least for NTFS).

Me too ! I may know an exception : drive snapshot, that tries to fragment as little as possible files when they are written.

[zfactor]

agreed here as well!! i always turn off any real time defrag stuff. i prefer to either schedule it to run or simply open it and click run or defrag etc.. personally i have always disliked all the auto defrag stuff.