October 2011 Whole Product Dynamic "Real World" Test Available

[PC_Pete]

Originally Posted by gery

i had to work on some computers at the municipality here and all were infected with trojans backdoors and some were infected so bad that i needed to do a fresh install of the OS . Guess what all of them had AVAST free installed and the settings were default . But none that had AVG or Avira was infected ( well in their quarantines there were e few infections ) Anyway i did a full MBAM scans and cleaning and installed Avira in the rest of the computers.

OT I know but when you were cleaning up and installing Avira, did you ask them why they thought it was OK to use Avast! Free (and maybe the others) illegally?

It's like saying, "Trust us. Yeah I know, we're ripping off these guys in a flash but trust us anyway."

I know everyone's trying to cut back but when I work with companies, municipal coumcils and not-for-profit orgs. I give them the choice of paid-for or free-for-all security products.

[gery]

Originally Posted by PC_Pete

OT I know but when you were cleaning up and installing Avira, did you ask them why they thought it was OK to use Avast! Free (and maybe the others) illegally?

It's like saying, "Trust us. Yeah I know, we're ripping off these guys in a flash but trust us anyway."

I know everyone's trying to cut back but when I work with companies, municipal coumcils and not-for-profit orgs. I give them the choice of paid-for or free-for-all security products.

i understand what you are saying but i am not responsible for that. I just wanted to make a sort of report of the incident. That has nothing to do with your topic though you are correct about it.

[PC_Pete]

Originally Posted by gery

i understand what you are saying but i am not responsible for that. I just wanted to make a sort of report of the incident. That has nothing to do with your topic though you are correct about it.

It's for you to decide what you will or won't do. I'm not even sure that that Avast are too indignant about that sort of thing. Maybe you could have just left out the word 'free' and I woudn't have known any better.

[Technical]

avast team is trying hard to avoid the business use of the free version.
It's not easy when it's done locally, one by one.
It can detect avast free used in Active Directories and when a domain is used.

[SweX]

It's never fun when a product don't live up to it's reputation, though it happens to every vendor at some point.

As for ESET's results, I think they are quite steady and I am happy for that.

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

I checked yesterday, the AI with a dataset from beginning of september detected all the samples that Avira missed. Too bad it is still not in the product.

[RejZoR]

And even when it will be, will it be in the free versiion as well?

[trjam]

yep, and it will be Aviras saving grace thanks to Stefan. And I will be able to leave this place at Christmas the same way I came in, with Avira lighten my path.

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

lol, trjam! You should wait with the thanks until it is released. Also, it is not me doing the AI, you need to thank Marcus and his team.

[NAMOR]

Originally Posted by Stefan Kurtzhals

lol, trjam! You should wait with the thanks until it is released. Also, it is not me doing the AI, you need to thank Marcus and his team.

Any info on the AI that you could give us?

[SLE]

Now we so often heard the advertising for AVIRA AI - so i think it's time for public proofs

Cause saying something in house/in development detects x or y % more, or all, or nothing. etc. - it's just irrelevant as long as it only is in house. IMO.