Wilders Security Forums  

Go Back   Wilders Security Forums > Software, Hardware and General Services > sandboxing & virtualization
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old October 28th, 2011, 05:51 AM
ocsi ocsi is offline
Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 95
Default System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

After prolonged use of system virtualization software (ex. Shadow Defender, Wondershare Time Freeze, Deep Freeze etc.) is damaged HDD?
Example:
Wondershare Time Freeze 2.0 - Settings - Advanced settings - activation Buffer Mode = This settings: "Minimize the frequency of reading /writing hard disk to prolong service life"
  #2  
Old October 28th, 2011, 07:53 AM
chris1341's Avatar
chris1341 chris1341 is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 624
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

I'm not sure why virtualisation software such as the ones you have mentioned would damage the HDD. They are only performing the same writes as the system would anyway just in a 'virtual' container. I suppose they may have to copy some files from 'real' to 'virtual' as they are used increasing activity but would imagine that would not be a huge factor. Some might argue they prevent defragmentation and the build up of temporary files so reduce the activity required to resolve those issues and are therefore good for the HDD(?)

Things like RollBack RX & Comodo Time Machine (restore rather than virtualisation) use the disc in a different way and I have seen some debate on the merits of that but not the virtualisation software you mention.

The Wondershare Buffer mode looks simillar to something that used to be available in Returnil where phsical memory (RAM/paging) was used to store the changes rather than a container somewhere on the disc (although paging is still obviously written to the HDD). This obviously reduces the disc activity. Perhaps Buffer mode uses only RAM who knows. Again though I think it is open to debate whether that would have enough impact to 'pro-long service life'.

I'm sure someone will give you a better technical explanation
__________________
Chris
  #3  
Old October 28th, 2011, 08:06 AM
TheKid7's Avatar
TheKid7 TheKid7 is offline
Very Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,463
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

I do not think that virtualization softwares have a significant impact on hard drive life.

The last hard drive which I purchased was an 'Enterprise Grade' SATA 300 hard drive which is designed for heavy near continuous 24/7 read/writes. Theoretically, an 'Enterprise Grade' hard drive should last somewhat longer than a typical SATA 300 hard drive.
__________________
NOD32, Sandboxie (Paid), AppGuard, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, Emsisoft Emergency Kit, DrWeb Cureit, AVIRA Rescue CD, Image for Windows/Image for DOS/Image for Linux, Firefox (Adblock Plus, Subscriptions: EasyList+EasyPrivacy+Malware Domains), Norton DNS
  #4  
Old October 29th, 2011, 11:25 AM
Mrkvonic Mrkvonic is online now
Linux Systems Expert
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,428
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

There's no clear connection between disk activity and disk life.
Mrk
__________________
http://www.dedoimedo.com

All your base are belong to us

Linux Systems Expert / Systems Programmer, Linux System Administrator, LPIC-1, LPIC-2 (WIP), GSEC, CCHD, CCHA
  #5  
Old October 29th, 2011, 03:49 PM
MrBrian MrBrian is offline
Very Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,925
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

Massive Google hard drive survey turns up very interesting things. Paper is available at labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
  #6  
Old November 11th, 2011, 09:59 AM
QQ2595's Avatar
QQ2595 QQ2595 is offline
Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 159
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

In theory, The one like Wondershare time freeze or Toolwiz time freeze is much safer for disk, as they are using memory for swap cache.
  #7  
Old November 11th, 2011, 05:12 PM
andyman35 andyman35 is offline
Very Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,270
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBrian
Massive Google hard drive survey turns up very interesting things. Paper is available at labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
That's a fascinating survey and very surprising conclusions,good find.
  #8  
Old November 20th, 2011, 05:56 PM
majoMo's Avatar
majoMo majoMo is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 784
Default Re: System virtualization = HDD damage (with time)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by QQ2595
In theory, The one like Wondershare time freeze or Toolwiz time freeze is much safer for disk, as they are using memory for swap cache.
Toolwiz Time Freeze (named BTOWS Time Freeze, some months ago) doesn't use "memory for swap cache". It creates in system drive a "BTOWS" folder with "Sandbox.dat" file to do their work.

It's free and works under 64 bits systems also. A lightweight virtualization app..
 

Wilders Security Forums > Software, Hardware and General Services > sandboxing & virtualization « Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2002 - 2013, Wilders Security Forums