spyshelter free with ais

[Amit]

hi,
when I used avast free and comodo fw/d+ there was no conflict. avast free has bb, right? but it played along with comodo's hips.
I upgraded to ais. Removed comodo fw/d+.
I'm thinking about adding spyshelter free to fill in the gap of comodo hips.
so, will spyshelter free hips and anti key-logger conflict with ais bb and its integrated anti key-logger feaure? is spyshelter needed when I've got ais?

thanks for any reply.

[Scoobs72]

You have no anti-execution control with Spyshelter, which is arguably the most important function (if it can't execute it can't infect, goes the saying).

You could try:
- Online Armor with the Firewall component uninstalled (from the Options>Firewall tab)
- A dedicated anti-exec application such as the novirusthanks one discussed extensively in this sub-forum
- A virtualisation app that includes an anti-exec element (e.g. Returnil)

Or you could try a threatgate mitigation approach, e.g. Defensewall or Sandboxie, but that is a very different approach to your previous setup.

A lot of it depends on the type of user you are and your own approach to computer security.

[Kernelwars]

as far as you real question goes--I have used spyshelter with avast with no conflict at all..

[Scoobs72]

Originally Posted by Kernelwars

as far as you real question goes

There were two parts to the question - is it needed and will it conflict. If it's not needed then there's hardly any point addressing the conflict question

[Kees1958]

Come on the OP bought Avast Internet Security, don't advise buying other stuff

I would definitely try Spyshelter free when you feel you are missing the HIPS, it is a very complete anti-key logger with decent HIPS functionality. You can set it to auto allow signed programs to reduce pop-ups.

I have used it in many setups on x32 systems, see for example http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showp...93&postcount=4


Regards

[Scoobs72]

Originally Posted by Kees1958

Come on the OP bought Avast Internet Security, don't advise buying other stuff

Number 1 on my list is OA, which is free if you don't want the extra functionality (not requested by the OP) It fills the gap left by CIS nicely by having a very strong, low pop-up HIPS with the option of uninstalling the firewall. On 32bit installs it also has all of the anti-keylogger functionality of Spyshelter.
imo, a HIPS without an anti-exec function is not really a proper HIPS.

[The_ChamP]

How to unsintall firewall and keep only the hips and run safer function ?

[moontan]

if you want an anti-exe you could always use windows own SRP.

[sm1]

When I used spyshelter with AIS I got BSOD. Spyshelter may not conflict with Avast free as some are using it. I think AIS firewall or BB conflicts with spyshelter.

[Scoobs72]

Originally Posted by The_ChamP

How to unsintall firewall and keep only the hips and run safer function ?

Options tab>Firewall>Uninstall Firewall.....although I'm not 100% certain that this option is available in the free version. If it isn't then bang goes this free option for you.

[moontan]

Originally Posted by sm1

When I used spyshelter with AIS I got BSOD. Spyshelter may not conflict with Avast free as some are using it. I think AIS firewall or BB conflicts with spyshelter.

no surprise there, with the quantity of inline hooks that SpyShelter injects in the kernel.

if i were you, i would try SS on a clean system.
then installs your security apps one by one until your computer seizes up.
you'll then know exactly what SS is compatible with.

[jmonge]

good idea

[moontan]

hahaha!

glad you like it, J. LOL

[jmonge]

i really do especially the protected mode

[moontan]

anyway,

you could try Blue Screen Viewer to check what's causing BSODs.

pretty good app to have laying around!

here's some help if you are new to it:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=306430