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Old May 25th, 2011, 01:14 AM
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Hello,

We have tested Storagecraft Shadowprotect Server Edition and found it very good in terms of functionality, speed and at the same time beeing easy to work with. I read numreous threads about activation problems. Our servers are not allowed to reach internet. So now I wonder is there any other software compareable to Shadowprotect that we can buy instead?

We have a 240 licenses of BackupExec today which we are not very happy with, since its slow, cumbersome to use and incosistent backups.

A few things I like with SC Sp that I would like in the alterntative..... Imagebackup, Convert Image directly to VHD/VMDK, Incremental backups with image collapse.
It also needs to be able to hot imagebackup server with Exchange, SQL, Active Directory and such sensible data.


But please provides as with alternative to SC SP!

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Old May 25th, 2011, 01:24 AM
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Keriver Image Keriver 1-Clk Restore PRO

http://www.keriver.com/
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Old May 25th, 2011, 03:42 AM
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You may want to take a look at Acronis, and Macrium Reflect. Those are the only two I can compare with SP. Keriver could also be a possibility if they have a server edition. I did not see one on their homepage.
-http://www.acronis.com/
-http://www.macrium.com/default.asp
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Old May 25th, 2011, 05:36 AM
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I read numreous threads about activation problems. Our servers are not allowed to reach internet.

Why don't ask Shadowprotect directly?
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Old May 25th, 2011, 08:21 AM
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imo in your use not much compares to sp. macrium is great also but does not do the collapse you asked about, i have never used image for windows on a server yet but they have a great program that is excellent activation wise. im not super crazy about it but you can look at O&O disk image i do no think it can collapse though but its been a few months since i played with it but they do offer a server specific version.

i have tried and own pretty much every program out there and for server use i feel sp is the best there is. sadly we have had activation issues as you mentioned and its a real pain to get it fixed when it happens especially if you need it fixed right away
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Old May 25th, 2011, 09:16 AM
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The activation issue is the one reason I don't use it as much. However, I think if your servers aren't accessible on the internet you can manually activate them via phone. I know it's not speedy when you need it, but might be worth it the effort over forklifting out the product for a new one.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 10:28 AM
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Nothing I've tried for home use has came close to ShadowProtect's speed and rock solid performance. (I use it to make "cold" images.) I was very pleased to learn that our turn key backup (where I work) uses ShadowProtect. I know we are in good hands.

Bottom line... I would definitely speak with StorageCraft on non web activations. IMO, time well spent.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 10:36 AM
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HAN,

Do you take your cold images with the software installed on your system or take it without it installed? I know if you don't have it installed on the system you are imaging - cold or hot - you can't use the HIR and maybe something else...not 100% sure what though.
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we use Backup Assist at our workplace http://www.backupassist.com/index.html

Expensive but seems to be the best for your needs
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Old May 25th, 2011, 01:28 PM
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A few things I like with SC Sp that I would like in the alterntative..... Imagebackup, Convert Image directly to VHD/VMDK, Incremental backups with image collapse.

http://www.rectiphy.com/products/ser...rver-features/

This appears to have those features.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 06:03 PM
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^^ anyone use that it actually looks pretty nice
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Old May 25th, 2011, 11:51 PM
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I don't think there are any other programs that really match SP's continuous incremental back up feature.

I have a set that has been running since the First of May. I take an incremental every 30 minutes and the average time per incremental is about 7 seconds. I never feel them. It just runs trouble free even if I reboot when they are supposed to run.

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Old May 26th, 2011, 08:57 AM
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zfactor,

I am loading it up now...will post my results. I started a new thread yesterday about it...I will post on that one. Thanks.
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Old May 26th, 2011, 09:22 AM
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If you like the features of the ShadowProtect product, give us a shout and we can see what the process may be in your environment for activation. You lose nothing for the inquiry.

Good luck!
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Old May 26th, 2011, 03:13 PM
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Do you take your cold images with the software installed on your system or take it without it installed?
I download the ISO from StorageCraft and create the bootable CD. I then boot into the ShadowProtect Windows PE environment to make my images. Nothing is installed and it runs very fast. I have even used the bootable Win PE CD to do some file maintenance that I couldn't do in regular Windows! Handy tool!
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Old May 27th, 2011, 05:13 AM
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Oh thanks god. There are at least some alternatives. I also found CA Arcserve and IBM Tivoli. But at this point the ActiveImage Protector seems to be a good candidate and I await review.

I tried SC SP but license is an issue and I will not putmore effort on that. Considering 240 servers I do not want any issues and gambling is not my thing.
 

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