Migrated OS to SSD closed discussion.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by dmtulsa

I have the same problem

This may be a stupid ? but where was your swap file? I only have the original HHD and the SSD so once I find the swap file where do I move it to?

Thank You
Doug

It is in root of C: drive. How much data are you going to exclude?
And to remove the page file or move it to another drive right click on My Computer - Properties - Advanced System settings - Performance - Settings - Advanced.

[dmtulsa]

I'm excluding about 80% of 82GB I only want to migrate the OS,users and program files. It stayed on the "calculating copy size" for over an hour.

Where do I move the swap file to? or do I need to do that.

Doug

[abeasley]

You can also turn off your swap file through the same menu. I had two drives on my system already so I just moved it.

It took 44 minutes to move about 50gb of data. I'm not home so I can't reboot to verify it was successful but it's looking promising.

[abeasley]

I'm guessing the problem is that it doesn't take into account the page file or the hibernation file when it lets you select which folders to transfer. By removing those two they won't come into play durring the transfer process.

[dmtulsa]

Thanks. I turned both off. I'm making another system image now. Then I'll restore to a clean HHD. Boot from it and clean the SSD and then try again. Too bad each of these steps can be a few hours.

Doug

[dmtulsa]

Is there a preferred way to use an SSD? Is it best to have only the OS on it or put as much as you can on it?

I'm thinking to put the OS,USERS, Documents & Settings, program files and frequently used programs not in program files. All other data would stay on the HHD

Is there a better way?

Maybe a guide could be added to the 3 page manual

Thanks
Doug

[PParent]

Successfully migrate Win 7 Ultimate to another HD. Interface user friendly. Clear program dialogs. Very smooth migration.

[Paragon_MA]

Thanks for feedback!

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by dmtulsa

Is there a preferred way to use an SSD? Is it best to have only the OS on it or put as much as you can on it?

Best if you have only OS on it. In this case you use SSD drive for read operations in most cases and thus prolong its life.

I'm thinking to put the OS,USERS, Documents & Settings, program files and frequently used programs not in program files. All other data would stay on the HHD

Good plan.

Is there a better way?

No.

Maybe a guide could be added to the 3 page manual

We will consider this in further development of the tool.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by dmtulsa

Thanks. I turned both off. I'm making another system image now. Then I'll restore to a clean HHD. Boot from it and clean the SSD and then try again. Too bad each of these steps can be a few hours.

Doug

Normally it does not take such long to exclude files from copy. Looks like you have many files in small chunks and estimation of them plus working over the file exclusion takes much time. Be patient a bit.

[Paragon_MA]

Hello Doug and Oxford_Al, could you please give more details on the amount data you were trying to exclude? What type of files and what is the common size them?
And most important - how many files there are to be excluded?
It would be nice to get log data from you both as well.
Many thanks for your patience and cooperation.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by mickiem

After more testing...
Copying XP Pro 32 to .vhd works, but not copying win7 64 -- both seem to work copying to a *real* drive. For me at least, when copying win7 if you select a real drive, things seem to go as planned -- when you select a .vhd as the target, it fails at the very beginning of the "Calculating copy size..." stage. And as copying the OS to a .vhd may be outside the purpose of the app as-is, it may not be an issue worth pursuing.

On the PC I used so far for testing, the 1st [boot] partition has XP Pro SP3 32 installed, with 7 64 on a 2nd partition of the same drive. I didn't get any crashes running Migrate OS to SSD in win7 32 VBox VMs. As best I can tell there are no conflicts with running software, with the exception of McAfee Internet Security 2010 -- I know that while Migrate OS to SSD is running in 7 64, opening the McAfee window results in that window being blank. Short of completely removing McAfee I don't know of a way to fully disable it -- turning off Real-time Scanning has no effect. I was able to boot into the 7 64 beta (installed to a 3rd partition on the 1st drive) & everything worked exactly the same way (it crashed just the same), so the non-hardware drivers I was concerned about I don't think are causing the crash. Using AutoRuns to turn off non-essential drivers & services had no effect, & neither did running 7 64 in Safe Mode. In XP Pro SP3 32 I installed vhdmount (from the Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1), & experience the same failure copying 7 64 to a mounted .vhd. Tests in a XP Pro 32, Windows Virt PC VM, & in a couple of Win7 32 VBox VMs, worked properly. FWIW monitoring install in a *virgin* win7 32 VBox VM, there doesn't appear to be anything missing from my regular win7 64 installation.

I haven't gone much further because I don't know if working with .vhd targets is a concern or totally outside the purpose of the app [& thus more-or-less irrelevant]. If requested I could migrate a win7 32 install from VBox to Windows Virtual PC, & testing there I suppose might hint at whether the problem has to do with Windows mounting of a .vhd vs the .vhd format itself. I could also try it on a 7 64 system with 7 installed to the 1st partition, &/or possibly try any other suggestions if you thought it might be useful for you. [i.e. Paragon].

Hello Mike,

I just confirmed with developers that migration of OS to vhd drive is not the functionality of this tool and thus has never been tested.
The utility is live hard drives (SSD and HDD) oriented and proper work of it on virtual machine not guaranteed.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by Plitv001

I attempted to do it from scratch about 6 times. Selecting Program Files and Windows folder and sometimes not.

Regardless, I still got that spinning wheel and not enough space on drive. (The windows folder and program files folders together are still way smaller than the ssd).

First time I clicked "No" on deleting bootable partition. The 2 attempts following that I clicked "Yes".

The system info file is in the zip folder.

Could you please tell us the size of data you want to exclude and common size of the files? How many files there are in sum?
Also your latest logs were not published here. Please post them or open a support ticket in our online support service. You can send log data via it.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by pps07com

I did my test, today.
I migrated my Win7-32 from IDE(PATA) to one SCSI, and the new HDD booted without problems.
But when I reboot to my IDE the SCSI Hdd was missed, because, the Disk Manager do not know the letter and the system inside. 100% free space.
This is not correct.

I tried to read the Guide before use, but the download zip file has only xml files, not a DOCX file, those I can not read.

My suggestions are:
% done bar
% completed task bar
some kind of animation like a pie chart to shows that is not freeze.
Time passed and correct time left.

My full operation costs 20 minutes, not 14:20 minutes, and all time the time left is showing few seconds.

I installed and uninstalled without error.

Thanks.

Thank you for feedback.

[Oxford_Al]

Hi Paragon_MA
I did uncheck a lot of program files because I just wanted to move the OS and then add programs as necessary. My HDD with Win 7 installed on it currently has around 250Gb used and so moving to a 60Gb SDD was obviously going to require some pruning! Would be happy to provide you with a log file, but where would I find that and would it exist seeing as I had forced the program to close?
To ensure a clean move of the OS do I just need to check the Program files/Windows directory and do I need to include the config files etc that reside on the C: drive?
Thanks for any extra info re: the above.
Regards
Alan

[dmtulsa]

70 GB to migrate

OK, Last night I wiped out the SSD and started over. This time I started the program and selected what to migrate. When it got to the "Calculating Copy Size" Screen I went to bed after a couple hours. This morning it said it was going to migrate 70gb and I need to restart my computer. I restarted and it went to a Paragon DOS like screen. After an hour I went to work. Maybe it will be done by the time I get home today.

I understand this is beta software but it needs to work much much faster. When I did a full copy it took only 18 minutes

I'll report on the status as I can
Thank you
Doug

[dmtulsa]

I understand. Just wish there was a message that said this may take a few hours or some progress bar with time. I know its beta software and these thins will be added in time.
Thank you

[dmtulsa]

Thank you,

I think this will be a good product once its speeded up a bit.

Doug

[vhick]

I decided to try it now the new Paragon Migrate OS to SSD Early Adopter Program. i receive an invitation last week and decided to try now but the download link say "Your download link has expired." Even if I log-in to my account to download the software, it gives me this error.

Please give me fresh download link to try it this software.

Thank you very much...

[dmtulsa]

Continuing last post. Got home and everything looked ok. The message said to change boot drive in BOIS which I did. It still booted off the HHD. So I unplugged the HHD and booted off the SSD....NO OS installed.......

Hooked back up the HHD and booted into windows. Checked the SSD with Paragon Hard Disk Manager and it said the SSD was not even Formated.

Sorry but this is totally useless to me. I'll just do a fresh windows install and be done with it.

[dmtulsa]

the "copy" works and is FAST but if you "exclude any files" plan on spending hours and then is DOES NOT WORK. No OS or partition on SSD if you look at the SSD with Hard Drive Manager 2010.

The fastest best way to move to a SSD is COPY all using the migration OS-SSD. Then use a FREE program call "app mover" to move all programs/ directories / files ect.. that you tried to exclude in the first place with OS-SSD to the HDD of your choice....This takes about an hour total. It also fixes the registry so Windows knows were you moved things too.

AND ITS FREE..........IT WORKS and ITS FAST compared to the Paragon software.

Sorry I really wanted this to work out but with the little feed back....supper slow, unacceptability slow software, I have to look for a better way.

I found it and its FREEWARE

I know its beta but if this is a big companies best shot at beta...........I feel sorry for you. If you want my log file please email me...make the effort and send me an email and I will gladly send them to you. I'm wasting no more time on this sorry

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by dmtulsa

the "copy" works and is FAST but if you "exclude any files" plan on spending hours and then is DOES NOT WORK. No OS or partition on SSD if you look at the SSD with Hard Drive Manager 2010.

The fastest best way to move to a SSD is COPY all using the migration OS-SSD. Then use a FREE program call "app mover" to move all programs/ directories / files ect.. that you tried to exclude in the first place with OS-SSD to the HDD of your choice....This takes about an hour total. It also fixes the registry so Windows knows were you moved things too.

AND ITS FREE..........IT WORKS and ITS FAST compared to the Paragon software.

Sorry I really wanted this to work out but with the little feed back....supper slow, unacceptability slow software, I have to look for a better way.

I found it and its FREEWARE

I know its beta but if this is a big companies best shot at beta...........I feel sorry for you. If you want my log file please email me...make the effort and send me an email and I will gladly send them to you. I'm wasting no more time on this sorry

Could you please collect the log data from your last test and upload them here? I am interested in STUBACT.log file.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by vhick

I decided to try it now the new Paragon Migrate OS to SSD Early Adopter Program. i receive an invitation last week and decided to try now but the download link say "Your download link has expired." Even if I log-in to my account to download the software, it gives me this error.

Please give me fresh download link to try it this software.

Thank you very much...

Simply re-register using different email address and get new download link.

[Paragon_MA]

Originally Posted by Oxford_Al

Hi All
Well I'm not sure what's happening with my migration! The first stage was fine, the sotware informed me that I needed to reduce the amount of data to be copied over so I selected the Windows program file and very little else to migrate. 7 hours later and I am still viewing a "calculating copy size" message, which when I try to stop I receive another message telling me "sorry for the inconvenience, it's not safe to stop the program now". Obviously I am going to have to try and force a close down but if anyone could give me a clue as to where I went wrong I would be very grateful. Right now it would have been much quicker to have done a clean install so it's a tad frustrating.
I have now forced the program to close and the only information I received back was that "part of the paragon software has stopped responding", no kidding! I have checked the SSD (OCZ Vertex E2 60Gb) and nothing has been written to it.
FYI - Win 7 64bit Home premium, Intel E8400, 4Gb DDR3, Hitachi 500Gb HDD, Gigabyte GAP35C-DS3R mobo.

Oxford_Al, how much data and number of files were you going to exclude?

[Lacko50]

Configuration 1:
Intel i7 quad, 2.6 GHz, 6 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit (US English).
Source hard disks: internal 750 GB 4-disk RAID5 with dedicated controller (Promise)
Destination: internal 32 GB IDE OCZ SSD

I bought a new SSD, explicitly for testing this Migrate OS to SSD SW. It was never used before, but worked perfectly: I could read and write data there. So I went ahead with testing the new Paragon SW.

After the welcome screen I received a warning message, that the destination disk will lose all its data. I clicked on Next.

The SW started to analyze my system, and automatically selected the destination drive (there was just one drive other than the boot disk) and told me that there was not enough space on the target for everything (360 GB data) on my source drive.

I then chose to select which directories to copy in the next "Change copy options" window. I selected only the Windows directory, 19.6GB, because I wanted to migrate the OS to the new disk, not other programs or data.

It would also be useful to get a button for going back a screen, but the SW has none.

I have hundreds of directories, which have to be manually deselected. It is quite a tedious task, which could be improved with buttons for "select all", "deselect all", and allowing Shift click to de/select a series of directories/files from the highlighted one to the directory under the cursor.

The next window tells that the SW is "Calculating copy size..."

Unfortunately, the Migrate OS to SSD program hangs there. It only shows rotating tear drops, but does not finish in 4 hours. I tried with unformatted destination disk and formatted one, with the same result.

Then I tried to close the program, but it only told that it was not safe to close, and it would close as soon as possible. It continued to show the rotating tear drops, but never quit. At least not in another couple hours. I had to shut it down from the Task Manger, which told me that part of the Paragon SW is not responding, but finally killed it.


Then I tried another system

Configuration 2:
Intel Core 2 duo, 3 GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit.
Source hard disks: internal 150 GB SATA
Destination: internal 1.5 TB SATA

Again, I only wanted to move the Windows directory to the new disk. Everything repeated as in Configuration 1: the Migrate OS to SSD program hanged at Calculating copy size... I had to use Task manager the kill the not responding SW.