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Old September 24th, 2010, 01:54 PM
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Default Lite 2011

When I setup file Exclusion list and turn it on and after rebooting in Virtual mode
my files in the Exclusion list Disappear and saved changes are not made to them, Why is this?

Also License key not work is it because I uninstalled system safe pro before installing the Lite version?
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Old September 24th, 2010, 02:56 PM
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The exclusions should remain until you specifically select a list item and then use the "Remove" button. Where are the files located?

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Also License key not work is it because I uninstalled system safe pro before installing the Lite version?

RVS Lite and RSS Pro licensing currently use different formats so are not compatible. IOW you can't use an RSS License with RVS Lite and visa-versa.

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Old September 24th, 2010, 03:05 PM
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Mike, how do you buy Lite 2011? Clicking on "Buy now" in the GUI takes you to a purchase page but only Pro is listed for purchase.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 03:28 PM
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The exclusions should remain until you specifically select a list item and then use the "Remove" button. Where are the files located?



RVS Lite and RSS Pro licensing currently use different formats so are not compatible. IOW you can't use an RSS License with RVS Lite and visa-versa.

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So are you saying I have to buy another License to use Lite version?
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Mike, how do you buy Lite 2011? Clicking on "Buy now" in the GUI takes you to a purchase page but only Pro is listed for purchase.

Strange - will check this and get back to you as soon as possible.

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So are you saying I have to buy another License to use Lite version?

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Old September 24th, 2010, 05:14 PM
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The exclusions should remain until you specifically select a list item and then use the "Remove" button. Where are the files located?

Mike

Mike I found out why the exclusions on my file list didn't remain, Its because I had True Crypt full disk encryption as soon as I Unencrypted the system disk the file exclusions worked properly. Its interesting how the "save file" feature works on the system safe pro version with full disk encryption but File
exclusions don't work on the Lite version.





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Thanks for the follow up. I have updated the team with your report.

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Old September 25th, 2010, 04:33 PM
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Lets us know as soon as you hear back from your team.

Also just wondering if Returnil made update patches to counter these Malware variants from this thread?
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=276210
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Old September 27th, 2010, 10:01 AM
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Lets us know as soon as you hear back from your team.

Also just wondering if Returnil made update patches to counter these Malware variants from this thread?
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=276210

Yes, both programs should be updated.

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Old October 3rd, 2010, 11:38 PM
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Hi Coldmoon just wondering if your team has confirmed the file exclusions conflict with True Crypt full disk encryption?

Are they going to fix it?

what is the time frame?

Also on Lite 2011 why does rvscore.exe always want to access the net?
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Hi Coldmoon just wondering if your team has confirmed the file exclusions conflict with True Crypt full disk encryption?

The lead is aware of this report and is researching the issue.

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Are they going to fix it?

If there is a defect, the defect will be addressed as always.

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what is the time frame?

At the moment I do not have any feedback on the investigation so it would be impossible for me to supply an ETA on any fix. Once I know the details, you will know shortly afterwards...

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Also on Lite 2011 why does rvscore.exe always want to access the net?

The System Guard is checking for any new updates for its anti-circumventor feature. If the check is blocked or you are in an isolated network, the software will still work as expected regardless of its ability to check.

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Strange - will check this and get back to you as soon as possible.

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Any news on this?
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Old October 4th, 2010, 01:43 PM
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Any news on this?

Hi Scoobs72,
Yes, send an inquiry for a pricing quote on the following page:

http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/support/sales

Licensing: Perpetual, but requires purchase of support in following years. IOW, you get support services included in the initial purchase period and then you will need to purchase support services after this time is over.

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Old October 5th, 2010, 01:38 AM
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The System Guard is checking for any new updates for its anti-circumventor feature. If the check is blocked or you are in an isolated network, the software will still work as expected regardless of its ability to check.

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But I have System Guard feature disabled

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Hi Scoobs72,
Yes, send an inquiry for a pricing quote on the following page:

http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/support/sales

Licensing: Perpetual, but requires purchase of support in following years. IOW, you get support services included in the initial purchase period and then you will need to purchase support services after this time is over.

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How come the Lite version pricing isn't listed on the website?
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But I have System Guard feature disabled

Issue noted and reported to the RVS Lite project lead.


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How come the Lite version pricing isn't listed on the website?

As it is an alternative to the main 3x line and the fact that licensing has a multi-seat minimum, requesting a quote gives the sales team a great deal of flexibility to work with the potential customer in formulating licensing for that customer specifically.

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Old October 5th, 2010, 09:28 AM
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As it is an alternative to the main 3x line and the fact that licensing has a multi-seat minimum, requesting a quote gives the sales team a great deal of flexibility to work with the potential customer in formulating licensing for that customer specifically.

That is a real shame. So in other words Lite is not intended for the home user market. I might as well uninstall it now.
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Old October 9th, 2010, 06:03 AM
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Due to the fact that I can't have my OS Disk Drive Unencrypted forever that the time frame is Unknown for Returnil to fix the file exclusions conflict with True Crypt full disk encryption, I have had to Uninstall Returnil and I am now using Shadow Defender instead.

With Shadow Defender you can add files to the exclusions list while in Virtual mode, it also has a commit now feature where you can save any random file or folder to the real disk at any time. Its registration is done off line. It does not make any out bound connection attempts. Its very simple and has no Bloatware.

But back to Returnil I will be testing any new Lite 2011 versions that Returnil brings out in the future.
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With Shadow Defender you can add files to the exclusions list while in Virtual mode...

Same with RVS Lite 2011

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... it also has a commit now feature where you can save any random file or folder to the real disk at any time...

Same with all versions of RVS/RSS. Its called the Virtual Disk with further options in RSS Pro and RVS Classic 2011 (coming soon) which includes automated saving to disk at a selected interval or at log-off/shutdown, selective virtual to real and real to virtual, and remote management for efficient scaling within networks.

None of which SD offers

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Same for RVS Lite 2011 for efficient support of inner ring and high security isolated networks. It also includes an integrated management console that allows remote management from any Windows computer in the network which SD does not offer

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...It does not make any out bound connection attempts...

Which means that to upgrade the software with protection against the latest virtualization circumventor you have to download and deploy a new build. This means it is extremely problematic for customers other than single seat consumers.

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...Its very simple and has no Bloatware...

There is nothing "bloatish" about any version of RVS/RSS as they only include what is needed to accomplish the mission the software was designed to achieve. RVS Lite 2011 is a system level virtualization solution with a security design and implementation focus, SD is simply a restore solution.

With that said however, Lite only provides a part of an overall security strategy whereas RSS Pro 2011 covers all the bases in a single application. This represents a significant saving for any network admin looking to reduce the number of programs he/she needs to monitor and keep updated, especially where license compliance is concerned. Where this person may have had to manage 4 or 5 separate solutions from (potentially) as many different vendors, you get a higher level of protection at a fraction of the cost.

In this economy, it is important for IT to be as lean and efficient as possible while doing all they can to reduce costs. Our solutions are designed to provide the highest level of security possible within the scope of the software's mission with aggressive pricing - you cannot say this about SD or any of our competitors who come from the restoration side of the spectrum with little or no real experience with true security.

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Will RVS Lite ever leave the Beta status respectively why is it kept in this Beta cage seemingly for no reason?

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Will RVS Lite ever leave the Beta status respectively why is it kept in this Beta cage seemingly for no reason?

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Hello Mike,

please can you give me further information about RVS Classic 2011, which you have mentioned in Thread 19 "(Coming soon)" ?

I never heard something about that.

Many thanks for your help!

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Hello Mike,

please can you give me further information about RVS Classic 2011, which you have mentioned in Thread 19 "(Coming soon)" ?

I never heard something about that.

Many thanks for your help!

Werderforever

It will be similar to the RVS 2010 Classic line without the Virus Guard component. In the new 2011 design however, it is sans the VG component completely so the installer is about a third of the current RSS 2011 installer.

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Old October 12th, 2010, 02:31 PM
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Many thanks, Mike.

Seems very interesting for me! Can you say when you approximately release the Classic 2011?

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Any idea when Classic 2011 will be released?

And will it be free? If not, how much will it cost?

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