Opera 11 = Extensions

[rdsu]

It seems that next version of Opera will have the most expected feature on it!!!

Opera 11 and extensions

We have today showcased some cool new stuff at our yearly press event Up North Web.

For desktop we have showcased extensions which will be part of the Opera 11 release.
Opera has always been very customizable and now we make than even better by allowing developers to extend Opera's rich feature set even further.

The upcoming Opera 11 alpha will be based on the current Opera 10.70 builds, which also means we will not ship a 10.70 final.

This will lead much more popularity to Opera...

[Links added after initial post:]
Opera 11 will have extensions
The Video Demo of Opera 11 Alpha

[rdsu]

More info:

Opera 11 will have extensions

[andyman35]

Excellent news.I'd guess that the single most requested feature has been for the addition of true extensions.

[nanana1]

Ha...the Fastest browser now gets better.

[PRUHDG]

The only extension I need for opera is Modifyheaders like that of FF.

[firzen771]

if opera gets extensions and enuff devs make extensions for it (like the FF ones i use, ESPECIALLY a dedicated lastpass extension comprable to the one in FF) then Opera will be my new official browser of choice

[dw426]

Now if they would have just done this, oh, let's say a year or more ago, maybe they would be on more machines by now? This is good, don't get me wrong, and anything beats the hell out of the fail that is widgets. But, they are a bit late to the party, and, have no one to blame but themselves if this move fails to light a fire under more people. Ad-blocking and a "NoScript" add-on should be the very first move made by add-on developers. They also need to not pull the same stunt Chrome does with that whole "Due to Google not making available certain APIs or functions, this add-on will not work fully". It needs to be all or nothing, IMHO. If they do that, they will go a long way towards finally having people care about Opera, which in turn will make using the web in Opera not so much a trial and error experience as it is now.

I will certainly be watching this extremely closely.

[zapjb]

As a longtime Opera user. Since v6 at least. I am only for extensions if Opera vets them all, unlike Firefox. I don't want the most secure browser in the world turned into a swiss cheese browser.

[dw426]

Originally Posted by zapjb

As a longtime Opera user. Since v6 at least. I am only for extensions if Opera vets them all, unlike Firefox. I don't want the most secure browser in the world turned into a swiss cheese browser.

Extensions can only cause the "swiss cheese" effect if you install them. And, in some cases such as Adblock Plus and NoScript, extensions can fill those holes up. An extension by itself can't harm security, it's crap coders and intentional maliciousness by the developer of an extension that does that. Also, if the vendor itself creates all the add-ons, I can guarantee that users will end up not being happy. Either they won't get extensions that add functions they want, or, if they do, it won't work the way they want it to. Users are the only ones who know what users want, leaving it up to the vendor will result in complaints and nightmares for Opera devs.

[rdsu]

More info for your doubts:

The Video Demo of Opera 11 Alpha

[dw426]

Originally Posted by rdsu

More info for your doubts:

The Video Demo of Opera 11 Alpha

And doubts I do have now. They were right, it does look more like widgets than actual extensions so far. That being said, we'll see what happens. That weather "extension" made me cringe, it took up a huge part of the webpage. Information from extensions should not be plastered all over the page you are viewing, it should be small but easily readable, and confined to either the bottom or top corners of the browser, IMHO. Most of what I got out of the guy answering the questions was "those answers are above my pay grade", lol. I didn't agree with the comment regarding security and speed problems with Firefox extensions, and I don't say that as a fanboy. It stands to reason that there will be malicious extension developers, and it stands to reason that if you load 20, 30 or more extensions, you're going to see speed issues. Opera can't "perfect" that.

[nanana1]

Originally Posted by dw426

Extensions can only cause the "swiss cheese" effect if you install them. And, in some cases such as Adblock Plus and NoScript, extensions can fill those holes up. An extension by itself can't harm security, it's crap coders and intentional maliciousness by the developer of an extension that does that. Also, if the vendor itself creates all the add-ons, I can guarantee that users will end up not being happy. Either they won't get extensions that add functions they want, or, if they do, it won't work the way they want it to. Users are the only ones who know what users want, leaving it up to the vendor will result in complaints and nightmares for Opera devs.

Fancy those comments when is not a frequent user.

I don't want any new Adblock extensions. Opera's urlfilter adblock is the simplest and the best adblock I can find.

[firzen771]

Originally Posted by nanana1

Fancy those comments when is not a frequent user.

I don't want any new Adblock extensions. Opera's urlfilter adblock is the simplest and the best adblock I can find.

thats the beauty of extensions, nobody forces u to install them... so i dont see how this can be something to complain about really, people who dont want extensions can simply not use them and continue as if nothing changed

[dw426]

Originally Posted by nanana1

Fancy those comments when is not a frequent user.

I don't want any new Adblock extensions. Opera's urlfilter adblock is the simplest and the best adblock I can find.

I wondered when one of you would show up to start the defense. What does my not being on-board the Opera train have to do with my comments? You don't have to be a browser fanboy or a hater to understand and see the logic behind what I said. As said, if you don't want a different Ad-Block, you don't have to use it.

[nanana1]

Originally Posted by firzen771

thats the beauty of extensions, nobody forces u to install them... so i dont see how this can be something to complain about really, people who dont want extensions can simply not use them and continue as if nothing changed

That's an assumption that nothing changed. If there is an Adblock extension, the simple and easy urlfilter option MAY be removed. Let's see.

[firzen771]

Originally Posted by nanana1

That's an assumption that nothing changed. If there is an Adblock extension, the simple and easy urlfilter option MAY be removed. Let's see.

well why not wait to see that before complaining about something thats not even in existance yet let alone ever being stated anywer...

[nanana1]

Originally Posted by firzen771

well why not wait to see that before complaining about something thats not even in existance yet let alone ever being stated anywer...

Haha...me not complaining at all. It's the other person that's complaining even though he doesn't use much of Opera.

[nanana1]

Originally Posted by dw426

And doubts I do have now. They were right, it does look more like widgets than actual extensions so far. That being said, we'll see what happens. That weather "extension" made me cringe, it took up a huge part of the webpage. Information from extensions should not be plastered all over the page you are viewing, it should be small but easily readable, and confined to either the bottom or top corners of the browser, IMHO. Most of what I got out of the guy answering the questions was "those answers are above my pay grade", lol. I didn't agree with the comment regarding security and speed problems with Firefox extensions, and I don't say that as a fanboy. It stands to reason that there will be malicious extension developers, and it stands to reason that if you load 20, 30 or more extensions, you're going to see speed issues. Opera can't "perfect" that.

Why are you complaining so much ?

[Eice]

Originally Posted by nanana1

Why are you complaining so much ?

Why are you trying so hard to stop people from offering their opinion?

[dw426]

Originally Posted by nanana1

Why are you complaining so much ?

Wow, you really have to ask that? By the way, I'm not "complaining", I first called you out for taking me to task for commenting about EXTENSIONS and when my reply didn't even involve you. Second, I don't recall any requirement of using software before one could comment on it, though, again, I wasn't speaking of your precious Opera, but extensions in general. I know these Opera threads are hallowed ground seemingly, but get off it. I've learned through here that you don't win arguments with Opera nuts, so this will be my last reply to you personally. Enjoy your evening.

[nanana1]

Originally Posted by Eice

Why are you trying so hard to stop people from offering their opinion?

Me not trying to stop people from sharing their thoughts but there are a few of these notorious few members here including yourself whose "opinions" if that's how you called them, are better off not shared.

[Eice]

Originally Posted by nanana1

Me not trying to stop people from sharing their thoughts but there are a few of these notorious few members here including yourself whose "opinions" if that's how you called them, are better off not shared.

A commendable attempt at playing thought police, but I believe the job of deciding who gets to post what is up to the moderators, not the Opera fanboiz.

[nanana1]

Originally Posted by Eice

A commendable attempt at playing thought police, but I believe the job of deciding who gets to post what is up to the moderators, not the Opera fanboiz.

Wrong. These notorious few including you decide what you want to post, not the moderators.

You've distracted this thread enough. Who's playing ?

Now back to this thread discussion.

[Eice]

Originally Posted by nanana1

Wrong. These notorious few including you decide what you want to post, not the moderators.

And the mods decide which posts stay. Either way, it's got nothing to do with you.

Originally Posted by nanana1

You've distracted this thread enough. Who's playing ?

Now back to this thread discussion.

Sure, the same old act of calling for peace and order. Wow you're such a nice guy aren't you... except that you were the one who started the distractions via ad hominem attacks on people who were peacefully discussing the topic in the first place.

Again, nice try.

[nanana1]

Back to this discussion thread.