Auslogics Disk Defrag scareware ?

[acr1965]

I was reading an older post here-
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showt...gics+scareware

and was unable to reply to the post because of its age. But I downloaded the Auslogics Disk Defrag program and was able to see the same marketing technique appears to be in full bloom. Could anyone else confirm or deny the Auslogics scareware technique with their "Syatem Health" pseudo scan?

thanks

[firzen771]

hmm.. i dont remember that being there back wen i used it

[acr1965]

This is version 3.1.8.155

[microbial]

I guess this is Auslogics trying to get you to shell out on their Boost Speed Blah.

I use their Disk Defrag but wouldn't waste my money on their other product...

That's why I prefer Eusing Free Registry Defrag.

[Narxis]

I use Auslogics BoostSpeed 5.0.4.235(latest version) and its pretty good. Worth the money if you want a paid all-in-one solution for cleaning and optimizing the computer.

Shame if the are using scareware tactics but overall their BoostSpeed product is good.

[acr1965]

I appreciate the feedback. But could someone else take a look at this program and leave feedback about whether the System Health scan being a legit scan or just some media clip?

thanks

[majoMo]

NTRegOpt reminds me "Windows 95..." perhaps also.

MyDefrag reminds me the same also.

No problem at all to use them. I don't mind at all.

Why? - They are free, very solid and excellent applications (and without scareware annoyances...) - that is what I want.

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

There are Free programs with a much better GUI than the one of
Eusing Free Registry Defrag which reminds me of...Windows 95...

WinASO RegDefrag

Quicksys RegDefrag

Simnet Registry Defrag

WinMend Registry Defrag

Their GUI may look better, but I can't find the history of versions of any of those programs, which is far more relevant than a pretty GUI in this case.

Eusing Free Registry Defrag changelog is very easy to spot: http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_...rd_history.htm

[PJC]

Originally Posted by guest

Their GUI may look better, but I can't find the history of versions of any of those programs,
which is far more relevant than a pretty GUI in this case.

So, what?
-Do you have something against these vendors?
-Is it the first time you see QuickSys and WinASO for example?
-What about Simnet?
-What about WinMend?

[PJC]

Originally Posted by majoMo

NTRegOpt reminds me "Windows 95..." perhaps also.
MyDefrag reminds me the same also.
No problem at all to use them. I don't mind at all.
Why? - They are free, very solid and excellent applications (and without scareware annoyances...) - that is what I want.

You can stay with programs that haven't developed since 2005 (e.g. NTRegOpt v1.1j)
If you believe that NTRegOpt is comparable with Modern products...No problem at all.

About NTRegOpt:
"Note that the program does NOT physically defrag the registry files on the drive
(as the PageDefrag program from SysInternals does). The optimization done by NTREGOPT
is simply compacting the registry hives to the minimum size possible."
Source

Originally Posted by majoMo

They are free, very solid and excellent applications (and without scareware annoyances...) - that is what I want.

The same stands for many Modern programs, too.

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

So, what?
-Do have have something against these vendors?
-Is it the first time you see QuickSys and WinASO for example?
-What about Simnet?
-What about WinMend?

I have nothing in special against any of them and I already used QuickSys in the past but not the others.

The problem is: I can't find their history of versions (changelogs), so that I could be sure that they are being actively developed.

[majoMo]

NTRegOpt - like ERUNT - doesn't belong at a bargain and worthless discussion between the "Old" versus "Modern" categories. By itself quality it belongs a classic application yet, with reliable performance since many years ago. NTRegOpt and ERUNT aren't outdate at all; version date is not a quality itself. Even when seems...

It's an evidence that many users adore "bells and whistles"; and developers give them that...

E.g.: all quoted programs (WinASO, Quicksys, Simnet, WinMend) named themself "Defrag". It's a good name indeed... The true is: they can't defrag anything!!! This kind of software are unable to do a physical defrag.

Why? Because their action is to do a process optimization, compacting the registry hives to the minimum size possible.. Defragmentation is another story!

If they add only bells and whistles, even modern and appealing, it doesn't mean that old, skilled, versed app. aren't a good advice and deserve to give advice. Quality isn't bells and whistles at all. Like recent doesn't mean better.

There aren't here a old versus modern issue indeed.

One issue in compatibility with Erunt and NTRegOpt: no full support to latest Windows OS (like Win7 x64).
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-on.../erunt/faq.htm

[trjam]

For the record, Auslogics Disk Defrag is the best freeware product I have found. Have used it since it came out and defrags better then anything out there. Each week I do a optimize defrag and my computers respond beautifully.

Originally Posted by trjam

For the record, Auslogics Disk Defrag is the best freeware product I have found. Have used it since it came out and defrags better then anything out there. Each week I do a optimize defrag and my computers respond beautifully.

Auslogics Disk Defrag seems cool, but I got a license to latest PerfectDisk Professional, which I think is probably the best commercial defrag tool available.

[acr1965]

Ummm....back on topic, can anyone confirm or deny the appearance of scareware advertising in Auslogics Disk Defrag?

thanks

PS- I realize I get off topic in posts probably more than anyone else, but I am concerned about this issue concerning Auslogics.

[PJC]

Originally Posted by acr1965

Ummm....back on topic, can anyone confirm or deny the appearance of scareware advertising in Auslogics Disk Defrag?
thanks
PS- I realize I get off topic in posts probably more than anyone else, but I am concerned about this issue concerning Auslogics.

Before asking about scareware Ads related to Auslogics, might I ask you:
-Why are you using Auslogics Disk Defrag and Not the Puran Defrag Free Edition (which offers Boot-Defrag)?

[PJC]

Originally Posted by majoMo

NTRegOpt - like ERUNT - doesn't belong at a bargain and worthless discussion between the "Old" versus "Modern" categories. By itself quality it belongs a classic application yet, with reliable performance since many years ago. NTRegOpt and ERUNT aren't outdate at all; version date is not a quality itself. Even when seems...

Not Outdated, ah?
"A problem has been discovered which on many systems causes ERDNT and NTREGOPT to display a "RegSaveKey: 3" error when optimizing / restoring the BCD00000000 hive. The cause is that after a clean install of Windows 7, the BCD part of the registry which contains Windows' boot configuration data resides on a hidden system partition with no drive letter assigned in Explorer etc. etc."

1. Quicksys RegDefrag is a small, clear and easy freeware utility to defrag and compact Windows registry.
It optimizes registry by removing gaps, fragments and wasted space in Windows registry files. Source

2. WinASO: Registry Defrag
Performs physical defragmentation of the Windows registry file.
After defragmentation your registry will acquire linear structure
which will reduce application response time and registry access time.
3 steps to complete registry defragmentation:
1: Analyze your registry.
2: Review the fragmentation report and choose an action.
3: Registry will be defragmented and compacted.
Reboot is required at the end. Source: Program Help File.

Originally Posted by majoMo

all quoted programs (WinASO, Quicksys, Simnet, WinMend) named themself "Defrag". It's a good name indeed... The true is: they can't defrag anything!!! This kind of software are unable to do a physical defrag.

If QuickSys and/or WinASO drag you into Court,
will you present enough evidence on the Accusations you made?

[acr1965]

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

Before asking about scareware Ads related to Auslogics, might I ask you:
-Why are you using Auslogics Disk Defrag and Not the Puran Defrag Free Edition (which offers Boot-Defrag)?

I use Puran. I have Auslogics installed now because I wanted to check about this potential scareware advertising.

[majoMo]

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

Not Outdated, ah?

Users can work with ERUNT/NTRegOpt without any crucial bug; like said in quoted page "You can simply ignore this error and continue". To you they are outdate; to me they aren't. I respect your conclusion; I respect mine also.

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

1. Quicksys RegDefrag

• Some does a interrogative sentence; I do a affirmative assertion: it can't do a physical defrag.

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

2. WinASO: Registry Defrag Performs physical defragmentation of the Windows registry file.

• WinASO claims that "performs physical defragmentation"? No problem. I assure what I said before (post #13): "The true is: they can't defrag anything!!! This kind of software are unable to do a physical defrag.".

Originally Posted by Mr.PC

If QuickSys and/or WinASO drag you into Court, will you present enough evidence on the Accusations you made?

I didn't articulate "Accusations"; I don't need to do that. I exposed an evidence that is a fact.

To figure out the issue is needed to be logical. To use in this debate feelings, emotions, unnecessary agitation doesn't help at all.
How to be logical here? It's easy. Simply to answer at the question:

How these kind of software does a physical defrag of Registry Hives?

1. OnLine defrag. (Y/N)
2. OffLine defrag (Boot Time Defragmentation). (Y/N)

If Y THEN physical defrag is done.
If N THEN physical defrag is unfeasible.

The answer is always the same. Deliberately I don't answer; to allow the logic conclusion.

[PJC]

Please, don' try to play verbal games. It is like trying to hide behind your finger.
To clear things up:

-Although WinASO claims Physical Defragmentation,
it cannot perform it (according to you)!

-So, WinASO is telling Lies to its Customers (according to you)!
It claims Physical Defragmentation,
but it cannot achieve it (according to you)!

--> If you had gone against WinASO with

OnLine defrag. (Y/N)
OffLine defrag (Boot Time Defragmentation). (Y/N)
If Y, THEN physical defrag is done.
If N, THEN physical defrag is unfeasible.

[Do you have evidence against Boot-Time Defrag (Y)?]

and/or

--> against QuickSys with what you read on Reymond's site
(with so much 'Evidence' like "I'm not really convinced", "I don't think" etc. ),

their Lawyers would have Rip you Off!

> Do you believe that WinASO had Not Consulted its Lawyers
-Before they wrote so Widely Open (=>Program Help File)-
that it performs Physical Defragmentation (to avoid Customers Lawsuits)?

> By the way, PageDefrag (from SysInternals) claim that it can
physically defrag the registry files on the drive.
Is it, like WinASO, too?
-Do they Also Claim what they cannot actually do (according to you)?

[majoMo]

I said "To use in this debate feelings, emotions, unnecessary agitation doesn't help at all.".

You insist to do that. You don't want to have a logical argument. I gave you how to figure out the issue; you calls lawyers now. Lawyers can't help here. You said: "Lawyers would have Rip you Off!""; I'm not afraid - I know well their logic.

So, you don't want clarification - but a disputation; it's why you don't want to answer at the logic; because it allows to end up a easy question (it's why I said: Deliberately I don't answer; to allow the logic conclusion.).

Like I said is easy:

How to be logical here? It's easy. Simply to answer at the question:

How these kind of software does a physical defrag of Registry Hives?

1. OnLine defrag. (Y/N)
2. OffLine defrag (Boot Time Defragmentation). (Y/N)

If Y THEN physical defrag is done.
If N THEN physical defrag is unfeasible.

The answer is always the same. Deliberately I don't answer; to allow the logic conclusion.

EXAMPLE - PageDefrag

The logical exercise to "PageDefrag":

QUESTION: How "PageDefrag" does a physical defrag of Registry Hives?

ANSWER: 2. OffLine defrag (Boot Time Defragmentation). Y

Like the answer is Y, the conclusion is: THEN physical defrag is done.

CONCLUSION: "PageDefrag" is able to do a physical defrag of Registry Hives!!!

q.e.d. - quod erat demonstrandum

Like you can see is easy.

[PJC]

Since you like Logical games, lets play one:
-WinASO claims Physical Defrag.
-WinASO states Physical Defrag (Program File).
-WinASO does Not perform Physical Defrag (According to you).

*Conclusion*
WinASO Claims and States what (Physical Defrag)
it (WinASO) does Not Offer to its Customers. (According to you).

Don't deny it!

Originally Posted by majoMo

WinASO claims that "performs physical defragmentation"? No problem.
I assure what I said before (post #13): "The true is: they can't defrag anything!!!
This kind of software are unable to do a physical defrag."

q.e.d. - quod erat demonstrandum (Latin phrase)
ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι (Greek phrase much older than the above!)

Easy. Isn't it?

1) Since it is so easy,
Prove me that WinASO does NOT perform Boot-Time Defrag
and in turn, fails to Physically Defrag (although they state it - Program Help file)!

In other words (because I don't hide my words behind verbal games!),
prove me that WinASO is telling Lies to its Customers!

Use Facts/Evidence!
No more verbal games!

And something else:

2) Reading from its Program File and HERE
"PageDefrag may be unable to reduce fragmentation on one or more of the files,
and it will indicate so on the boot-time Blue Screen...etc. etc. For the best results, you
should use PageDefrag in conjunction with
a commercial defragmentation utility or the free Contig defragmenter."

Don't glorify PageDefrag and NTREGOPT that Much!

-NTREGOPT cannot perform Physical Defrag.
-PageDefrag, although it claims it performs Physical Defrag,
it (PageDefrag) does Not defragment the Contents of the Registry files,
only the Placement of these files on the hard drive!

As far as Windows 7, PageDefrag and NTREGOPT are Both Useless!

[acr1965]

Originally Posted by acr1965

Ummm....back on topic, can anyone confirm or deny the appearance of scareware advertising in Auslogics Disk Defrag?

thanks

PS- I realize I get off topic in posts probably more than anyone else, but I am concerned about this issue concerning Auslogics.

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