Avira 10 launched

[acuariano]

well cloneranger the latest version is 3.41

[JRViejo]

Removed Software Modifying Post. Please read this Post and if any link to that software is posted again, this thread will close.

JR

[luciddream]

Originally Posted by CloneRanger

@acuariano

Hi, thanks for your post.



Correct, but for the record, there are web bug blockers for IE



You're right my bad

Before all this kicked off, i was fine with the buy me pop up as i felt it wasn't too much to ask a few times a day for a great AV. Since i became aware of these strange occurrences i have installed the NoNotifyAvira-V3.3.1.exe popup etc killer. Until i hear a solid plausable explanation for these events from Avira, or someone, i'll keep it installed.



The devil needs to rest too

Why even bother?... seriously. If they're willing to do this, what else are they willing to do? Later on down the road they might get something to replace avnotify, as people are catching on to it, then it's back to square one again. It's just not worth it. I won't put any software on my computer that I don't trust, and when it comes to software that needs special privileges (i.e. set hooks), then that applies tenfold.

Do yourself a favor and find something you can trust.

[luciddream]

Originally Posted by CloneRanger

@doktornotor

Well that eckzahn person has definately started something, and good for him !

Absolutely! That person is doing a great service to his fellow security enthusiast. Without people like that around to keep these companies honest, they would take advantage of us at every opportunity.

[doktornotor]

OK, we got the "explanations" now... OK, the guys seriously are not worth wasting any more time. Caveat emptor. I personally will avoid them like plague.

[doktornotor]

Oh, and in case you didn't know yet, the whole functionality of Avira is provided by one registry key. Now that's a masterpiece of programming

Snapshot for archiving purposes attached, since I suspect the threads will vanish after weekend.

[whitedragon551]

Originally Posted by JRViejo

Removed Software Modifying Post. Please read this Post and if any link to that software is posted again, this thread will close.

JR

Are we allowed to post the registry edit to disable the nag or the part where you can do this in Windows without modifying the program at all? You just restrict it with built in Windows functions?

[BlueZannetti]

Originally Posted by whitedragon551

Are we allowed to post the registry edit to disable the nag or the part where you can do this in Windows without modifying the program at all? You just restrict it with built in Windows functions?

Whitedragon551,

Thanks for asking.

We're not in the business of parsing the legal nuances of EULA's and so on. However, we do strongly favor respecting the rights and wishes of others resident on the internet. That includes a number of distinct populations, including product vendors.

We request that, moving forward, everyone should please refrain from sidetracking technical discussion threads with side excursions on how to disable/subvert/remove measures that vendors employ as an enticement to purchase paid versions of a program.

If that's a game that anyone wishes to play, then fine, just play it elsewhere.

Blue

PS - a handful of off-topic posts removed.

[luciddream]

The way I see it, if you have to go trying to crack a software to plug holes/patch exploits, you shouldn't have it on your computer to begin with. I figured out a way to disable the nag screen, stop the unsolicited outbound connections and get hourly updates with the personal version all without cracking the software, using SRP or implementing the tweak whitedragon was eluding to. A simple HIPS rule or two and the "scheduler" within the Avira interface is all that is needed.

No matter, it's just not worth it. And if somebody did ask me how I would encourage them to use another product instead of telling them. Pro-active measures are always better than reactive. Don't let it become a problem in the first place, and there's no need to fix it. Simple and effective logic.

[whitedragon551]

Originally Posted by luciddream

The way I see it, if you have to go trying to crack a software to plug holes/patch exploits, you shouldn't have it on your computer to begin with. I figured out a way to disable the nag screen, stop the unsolicited outbound connections and get hourly updates with the personal version all without cracking the software, using SRP or implementing the tweak whitedragon was eluding to. A simple HIPS rule or two and the "scheduler" within the Avira interface is all that is needed.

No matter, it's just not worth it. And if somebody did ask me how I would encourage them to use another product instead of telling them. Pro-active measures are always better than reactive. Don't let it become a problem in the first place, and there's no need to fix it. Simple and effective logic.

The tweak Im referring to is absolutely nothing to do with exploits, holes, or cracking anything. Its a simple command within Windows that disables it and can be done without a HIPs, Firewall, or other software.

If it annoys people that badly they can google the answer. It doesnt cripple the software in anyway or prevent it from getting updates any slower or more frequently than they would anyways.

[luciddream]

Originally Posted by whitedragon551

The tweak Im referring to is absolutely nothing to do with exploits, holes, or cracking anything. Its a simple command within Windows that disables it and can be done without a HIPs, Firewall, or other software.

If it annoys people that badly they can google the answer. It doesnt cripple the software in anyway or prevent it from getting updates any slower or more frequently than they would anyways.

Never said it did, and I'm pretty sure I know what you're eluding to.

[Macstorm]

Hi again fellow Avira users (after a short vacations )

In my experience, the only "issue" that I found with v.10 is the alert message that rarely appears when you have an USB device plugged in to the PC. Although I know that there's a setting within the program's advance configuration which prevents the autostart functions of usb sticks and such, I prefer myself to wait for the Avira developers to improve this feature, so in the meantime I'll keep this setting enabled.

On the other hand, for this v.10, this is the first time I didn't need to modify any settings at all after installation, from the default configuration. I think that devs did a perfect job on it

Have a good day folks

[Osaban]

Originally Posted by Macstorm

Hi again fellow Avira users (after a short vacations )

In my experience, the only "issue" that I found with v.10 is the alert message that rarely appears when you have an USB device plugged in to the PC. Although I know that there's a setting within the program's advance configuration which prevents the autostart functions of usb sticks and such, I prefer myself to wait for the Avira developers to improve this feature, so in the meantime I'll keep this setting enabled.

On the other hand, for this v.10, this is the first time I didn't need to modify any settings at all after installation, from the default configuration. I think that devs did a perfect job on it

Have a good day folks

It is certainly refreshing to have someone stating some positive things about Avira. I also agree there aren't any serious flaws to new version even though I can understand people complaining of not having the choice to remain with version 9 for a bit longer (the whole issue is still debatable as some managed to stay with V9).

As for the conspiracy theories behind the free version and avnotify, it is disgraceful how some people have turned this thread into a slander bout against a very respectful company.

If Avira ends up losing these kind of "customers", it is perhaps a good loss.

[n00bliscious]

Originally Posted by BlueZannetti

Whitedragon551,



We request that, moving forward, everyone should please refrain from sidetracking technical discussion threads with side excursions on how to disable/subvert/remove measures that vendors employ as an enticement to purchase paid versions of a program.

Yeah, who's to care when Avira pops up every once so often to give us some sweet love!!

[luciddream]

Originally Posted by Osaban

It is certainly refreshing to have someone stating some positive things about Avira. I also agree there aren't any serious flaws to new version even though I can understand people complaining of not having the choice to remain with version 9 for a bit longer (the whole issue is still debatable as some managed to stay with V9).

As for the conspiracy theories behind the free version and avnotify, it is disgraceful how some people have turned this thread into a slander bout against a very respectful company.

If Avira ends up losing these kind of "customers", it is perhaps a good loss.

There is certainly disgrace in this equation, but we will just have to respectfully disagree on where it lies.

Some of this has gone over the top, no question about it, but people should never stop asking the hard questions. There has to be some system of checks and balances to keep the status quo honest. It's a good thing that people are bringing these issues to the attention of people who care about such things. I would think that such discussion would be encouraged at a place like this, provided that the sniping is kept to a bare minimum. That first paragraph was my last "shot", I promise, it was just too tempting to pass up.

The reason people are making such wild speculation is because that's all they can do, as nobody from Avira has provided a plausible answer. Until/if somebody does, the speculation will continue, and rightfully so IMO.

I do think that we should stick to the X's & O's though, and scrap the personal attacks.

[tgell]

I don't want to hijack the thread but has anybody noticed that avira has not updated their virus definitions for two days now.

[whitedragon551]

Originally Posted by tgell

I don't want to hijack the thread but has anybody noticed that avira has not updated their virus definitions for two days now.

Last update for me was April 11th which is today. Atleast in my time zone its today.

[the mul]

Originally Posted by whitedragon551

Last update for me was April 11th which is today. Atleast in my time zone its today.

Hi,

Avira will show the date the programme actually last checked for an update, but the last VDF update was on Friday.

Last update VDF file 7.10.06.55 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:23 (GMT+2)

If you have a look at the VDF update history in the link below, you will see that there is very little updates on a sunday, if any.

http://www.avira.com/en/threats/sect...ory/index.html

[trjam]

Originally Posted by Macstorm

Hi again fellow Avira users (after a short vacations )

In my experience, the only "issue" that I found with v.10 is the alert message that rarely appears when you have an USB device plugged in to the PC. Although I know that there's a setting within the program's advance configuration which prevents the autostart functions of usb sticks and such, I prefer myself to wait for the Avira developers to improve this feature, so in the meantime I'll keep this setting enabled.

On the other hand, for this v.10, this is the first time I didn't need to modify any settings at all after installation, from the default configuration. I think that devs did a perfect job on it

Have a good day folks

I have been beating the heck out of version 10 all day today on 4 computers. Two 32 bit and two 64 bit. . Even let my 2 teens go at it tonight, heh-heh. The frigging version has worked flawlessly. Actually it is quicker with web scanning then anything I have used of late. My son got it to grab some stuff where he ventured, dont ask, and both said their laptops are much faster. Short test? Yes. Extensive test? Yep, if you know my family. I maxed out pretty much in most settings except Integrity checking, optimize scan, and follow symbolic links, until someone says to use them. I enabled block suspious I-frames in web guard. In version 9, this caused a slow down which is not there in version 10.

Their 2 laptops are 32 bit so have the proactive module which I honestly cant report on at this point. Updating has worked. There may be some issues, "who doesnt have them" but for me, this product, and avatar, are a keeper. Very good product.

[firzen771]

Originally Posted by trjam

but for me, this product, and avatar, are a keeper. Very good product.

doubtful.....lol

[doktornotor]

Originally Posted by trjam

for me, this product, and avatar, are a keeper.

LMAO... So, it's been G-Data, Kaspersky and Avira in one week... probably missed one or two.

[Mongol]

Originally Posted by doktornotor

LMAO... So, it's been G-Data, Kaspersky and Avira in one week... probably missed one or two.

I think Avast was briefly in the mix also...

[Macstorm]

Originally Posted by trjam

Their 2 laptops are 32 bit so have the proactive module which I honestly cant report on at this point. Updating has worked. There may be some issues, "who doesnt have them" but for me, this product, and avatar, are a keeper. Very good product.

Well Trjam, considering myself an avira fanatic, I hope this time you stick with this product for good once for all

[trjam]

cant argue your points on that one, but I started with Avira, and just maybe, will finish with Avira.

[linuxforall]

Originally Posted by trjam

cant argue your points on that one, but I started with Avira, and just maybe, will finish with Avira.

Finish, you mean you are contemplating to go av free?