Panda Cloud Antivirus - Version 1.0 Final Released

[EliteKiller]

Originally Posted by Edwin024

Nice. But the Panda Cloud software is tested by many YouTube tester who are very reliable. They used all different nasties against it. And although smal in amount: that is what people encounter whil ebeing on the PC at not-so-good websites.

The tests from PC Magazine and the other PC magazine can be bought, don't forget that. It's very strange that real-online tests show that Panda Cloud is not good in detection and removal. And then on the other hand the company with it's budget for advertising in magazine tests.

I think it's much better if people stop believing magazine tests. They have something to lose, the online testers not.

A YouTube tester, such as LanGuy99, uses around 10-15 samples to test different products. While I find the tests entertaining I do not let them influence my decisions. As an example Avira generally has superior detection capabilities, but it didn't do so hot on LanGuy's tests. The fact of the matter is that no AV, IS, or AV + AS combo is going to be 100% on any given day.

I'd also like to mention that while I appreciate the static tests done by AV-C and AV-T they are also not the "final answer" on testing. Now that AV-C is venturing into real world tests (eg. Dennis Labs) I am eager to see the detailed results.

None the less anyone who is relying exclusively on these YouTube tests should be a little more open-minded.

[Edwin024]

Isn't pbust now saying that he say hallelujah to the test system of av-comparatives too.... Enter their test program!

[pbust]

Originally Posted by Edwin024

Isn't pbust now saying that he say hallelujah to the test system of av-comparatives too.... Enter their test program!

I didn't say "hallelujah". I'm comparing the two types of tests you mentioned and I'm saying that AC-Test, AV-Comparatives and PCSL are much more comprehensive than just testing 10 samples like the youtube tests from languy99 or mrizos.

Whatever talks there is or isn't between Panda and AV-Comparatives is just that, between Panda and AV-Comparatives.

[robinb]

Originally Posted by Victek123

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I'm curious about the hardware. Can you list the CPU, Ram, and amount of data on the hard drives of the two machines?

computer #1 cpu- meaning what? percentage it went up to? If so I watched it as it was scanning and it jumped from 80-100% as it was scanning. This is a pentium 4 1.8ghz- 1gig ram- 40gig hd running xp pro sp3- half the drive is full

comptuter 2= dual core amd 64bit processor 2.80ghz running vista home premium sp1- 160 gig hd- 1/4 of the drive is full

Computer 3= xp home sp3- 120gig hd, 1/4 of the drive full, dual core processor 2.8ghz.

robin

[pbust]

We posted fixes for some of the most common issues:

http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/...jspa?forumID=7

I hope these help, more to come later. If you have any questions or problems please let me know.

[Brocke]

Originally Posted by pbust

We posted fixes for some of the most common issues:

http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/...jspa?forumID=7

I hope these help, more to come later. If you have any questions or problems please let me know.

thank you for the fixes, when could we expect to see a version fix? with the corrected issues

[iwod]

Originally Posted by EliteKiller

Whose restrictions?

Company Restrictions of coz...
( Not that i am not allowed to, i just dont want to remove it. )

Originally Posted by iwod

Is there anyway to force install of Panda even i had Norton / Symantec installed?

I have disabled all Symantec Component, but i am not allowed to uninstall it due to restrictions.

Any solution?

[Templar]

been reading on Panda and the cloud system, they look good, very good indeed and some exciting SMB approach.

Simon

[Patrician]

Originally Posted by Brocke

i would its pc mags editor chice award for best free av. also ver. 1.1 will have auto update for program along 'i think' behav. protection. along with more offline protection.

i like very light and simple. it detects everything.

I have a bit if an issue with PC Mag's testing methology. They try to clean an already infected system by installing an AV product and then seeing how well it cleans that system. But this is not how we clean infected systems in the industry. We boot the infected PC from a "live CD" such as Kaspersky's, F-Secure's or equivilent and clean it that way. We would never actually install an AV product to clean it, as this method very rarely works.

[pbust]

Originally Posted by Brocke

thank you for the fixes, when could we expect to see a version fix? with the corrected issues

We haven't done it yet but probably will bundle a few fixes together in either a new vesion of a single installeable hotfix.

Originally Posted by iwod

Is there anyway to force install of Panda even i had Norton / Symantec installed?

I have disabled all Symantec Component, but i am not allowed to uninstall it due to restrictions.

Our installer recognizes other AVs and does not allow to be installed if other AVs are present. This is to prevent the majority of non-expert users from getting into trouble by having 2 AV resident drivers running at the same time. If Symantec allows to be installed on top of other AVs, you could try installing first Panda, disabling the resident driver, and then installing Symantec on top. Just remember to always have only 1 resident driver active at a time.

[Ibrad]

Does Panda Cloud Antivirus have any known compatibility issues with Malwarebytes, Threatfire, Winpatrol, or Defensewall?

[intrepid44]

Originally Posted by Ibrad

Does Panda Cloud Antivirus have any known compatibility issues with Malwarebytes, Threatfire, Winpatrol, or Defensewall?

I have been using panda cloud with threatfire and malwarbytes since it was in beta with no problems.

[Ibrad]

Originally Posted by intrepid44

I have been using panda cloud with threatfire and malwarbytes since it was in beta with no problems.

Thanks for that information, this weekend I want to switch over my PC to Panda and use a layered security setup. I don't want to go through the compatibility issues I had with MSE again

Update: I installed it and I am very impressed, changing antivirus software cut my boot time in half!

[Patrician]

Installed Panda Cloud AV on my Windows 7 to test as my Avira license is nearing it's end. Installed fine and very light after initial quick scan. However, when testing with eicar (all types available) there was no warning from Panda that any of the eicar files are potentially harmful. No downloads were blocked, no connections terminated and, as stated, no warnings.

None of the files were accessable I must admit, but I am not confident that Panda Cloud is ready for full release to be honest. I would like to see warnigs when malware is downloaded, or attempted to be downloaded, and I would like to see it block the download.

So i'll be removing it and waiting untill the product matures a little I think. So far it doesn't instill me with confidence.

[pbust]

Panda Cloud Antivirus does detect the EICAR testfile obviously. What format did your EICAR test have (.com, .exe, txt, ...)? Also what do you mean by
"None of the files were accessable I must admit"?

[Edwin024]

That he couldn't open or run the files perhaps? Not that difficult

[Ibrad]

I think that user is talking about the message that says: "This File is in use and can not be accessed" its worded something like that. On a youtube review I watched of panda cloud that message would come up but no Virus has been Blocked message came up. Watch the Languy99 review of Panda Cloud on youtube and you will see the message I am talking about

[Patrician]

Originally Posted by pbust

Panda Cloud Antivirus does detect the EICAR testfile obviously. What format did your EICAR test have (.com, .exe, txt, ...)? Also what do you mean by
"None of the files were accessable I must admit"?

I downloaded all versions availabnle on eicar.com. The "naked" .com and both versions of the file zipped. All SSl versions too. Panda did not ilicit a single warning that any of the files were suspect.

By "none of the files were accessible" I mean that I ws not able to open any of the zipped files. I received a message stating that the file was corrupted. I assumed that this was Panda blocking my access to the files. But, again, there was no warning from Panda Cloud.

[pbust]

Ok thanks for the clarification

It should give a warning when you download eicar.COM. I just downloaded it and this is what is shown as soon as eicar.com hits the desktop:


And the logfile:

Event                                                         More details                                                                                                      Date/Time             Status      
Virus detected   <A href="malwareinfo">EICAR-AV-TEST-FILE</A> Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Joe\Desktop\eicar.com                                                         12/19/2009 2:35:44 PM             
Virus detected   <A href="malwareinfo">EICAR-AV-TEST-FILE</A> Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Joe\Desktop\eicar.com                                                         12/19/2009 2:35:44 PM Neutralized 

If you download the ZIP or TXT however it will not give a warning (unless you right-click on them and scan them) and the TXT file is not supposed to be detected.

Is anyone else seeing the same thing as @Patrician?

[Blackcat]

Originally Posted by Patrician

Installed Panda Cloud AV on my Windows 7 to test as my Avira license is nearing it's end. Installed fine and very light after initial quick scan. However, when testing with eicar (all types available) there was no warning from Panda that any of the eicar files are potentially harmful. No downloads were blocked, no connections terminated and, as stated, no warnings.

PCAV always picks up the eicar.com file on a number of Vista/XP machines here.

Maybe this problem is Win 7 specific

Or I would make sure that all remnants of your last AV are removed, try a fresh install of PCAV, carry out a FULL scan, Reboot and then try eicar again.

[Edwin024]

Pbust also uses Panda Cloud on Win7 64bit. For the fun of it I have installed it now again to see if it works any better than last time. More people in the cloud, that kind of stuff.

[Patrician]

Originally Posted by pbust

Ok thanks for the clarification

It should give a warning when you download eicar.COM. I just downloaded it and this is what is shown as soon as eicar.com hits the desktop:
Attachment 214317

And the logfile:

Event                                                         More details                                                                                                      Date/Time             Status      
Virus detected   <A href="malwareinfo">EICAR-AV-TEST-FILE</A> Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Joe\Desktop\eicar.com                                                         12/19/2009 2:35:44 PM             
Virus detected   <A href="malwareinfo">EICAR-AV-TEST-FILE</A> Location: C:\Documents and Settings\Joe\Desktop\eicar.com                                                         12/19/2009 2:35:44 PM Neutralized 

If you download the ZIP or TXT however it will not give a warning (unless you right-click on them and scan them) and the TXT file is not supposed to be detected.

Is anyone else seeing the same thing as @Patrician?

No I did not get any warning from Panda Cloud. My son also has a Windows 7 machine running Panda Cloud and is seeing the same behavior. The downloaded files are not accessable but Panda gives no warning.

Also, why should there be no warning when downloading the zipped versions? Doesn't Panda Cloud scan files when written to disk?

[Blackcat]

Originally Posted by robinb9

i keep getting that error web page stuff every time i try to go to their forum site
it doesn't do this in ie 8
robin

I keep getting this error using IE8, FireFox or ChromePlus so not corrected yet.

[arjunned]

Originally Posted by Blackcat

I keep getting this error using IE8, FireFox or ChromePlus so not corrected yet.

Ya. Same here. I use ChromePlus. But refreshing the page works.

[Brocke]

im running it on windows 7 32bit without issue. odd that some are having issues and i only use IE8