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Old May 21st, 2009, 03:47 PM
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What about this test:

http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/scanner/

Is this not trustworthy? Are you saying that emsisoft lies too?

Just curious.

You mean this test discussed here........
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=240856
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Old May 21st, 2009, 04:04 PM
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Hey if MBAM was *Rogue* or ineffectual in the realworld dealing with malware then they would'nt be managing weekly downloads in access of 300,000+ @ Download.com
http://download.cnet.com/windows/
Attachment 209079

Oh my was over 400K+ this week

mmm... nice image.

I have this image from Download.com:

Source Link

Name:  Dibujo.PNG
Views: 360
Size:  10.2 KB

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1230/dibujoiie.png

Hey, but, hang on, it says spyware remover...

I thought MBAM was an antimalware program...

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Old May 21st, 2009, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: SSUpdater.com Anti-Malware test

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mmm... nice image.

I have this image from Download.com:

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Attachment 209087

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1230/dibujoiie.png

Hey, but, hang on, it says spyware remover...

I thought MBAM was an antimalware program...

Does download.com have an antimalware category?

Would make sense if they did....but i don't think they do
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Old May 21st, 2009, 05:05 PM
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Does download.com have an antimalware category?

Would make sense if they did....but i don't think they do

I dont think they have that category either. Its a bit confusing now that I look at it closer. What a mess.

Never used Download.com and now that I've seen it closely, I think I never will.

P.S.: But, hang on, I think I have but coming from the authors portal of some program. Dont remember which one.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:13 PM
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I've got a question. How come PrevX is never (or rarely) used in these online published tests? I would like to see some sort of proof that PrevX is "really that good".

Prevx is going to be tested by a well respected testing site in the not too distant future........
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Old May 21st, 2009, 06:36 PM
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I've got a question. How come PrevX is never (or rarely) used in these online published tests? I would like to see some sort of proof that PrevX is "really that good".

We are fundamentally incompatible with how many of the testing organizations perform their tests, however some recent reviews/tests can be found at:

http://pxnow.prevx.com/zeroL/PCMag_Review.pdf

http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/win...w-112112.shtml

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/newsinde...ease?id=256969

http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-...s-evil-web-589 (this last one is about Prevx 2 using an older version of our community database, but its still a valid test)


Note that the PC Magazine review is actually probably the first "correct" review of Prevx software because of their testing methodology.

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EDIT: I think the fact that PrevX is in Virustotal's black-listing list shows it should be included in all black-listing tests.

The engine on VirusTotal is a very simplistic version of our engine and works only on a blacklist with limited heuristics.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 07:20 PM
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Finally, the particular review above that I briefly analysed shows once again the importance of having a layered security approach, and not just depend on one product.

For what it's worth, you may want to pick a different review to read if you want pertinent information on Prevx 3.0 as Prevx 3.0 was 100% rewritten from Prevx 2.0 (no code exists from the Prevx 2.0 days )
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I'm really confused.
Aren't they the same guys who published this test?
Exactly...what a joke that week was!!
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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:26 PM
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All I'll add to the great "is MBAM rubbish or not?" debate is: Let those that think it is avoid it like the plague,meanwhile the rest of us will carry on using it on heavily infected systems to great effect.
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Old May 21st, 2009, 08:30 PM
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Regardless of whether the tests are 100% reliable, we keep seeing Avira at the top for any published black-listing test online. Not 3rd or 4th, but 1st (or occasionally 2nd or 2nd equal). That is just incredible!
Some things are unavoidable,death,taxes and Avira topping AV tests.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 03:42 AM
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I just find it amazing that Avira keeps scoring near or over 99% in all tests (and keeps taking that number one spot). I would be very interested to see if PrevX also detects at that level in the same sample of tests. Hence my wishes that PrevX could be used in AV-Comparatives etc.

I wonder if there are any reviews out there (that show detection rates etc) for Hitman Pro?

I have run several tests using Prevx, Avira, A2. Hitman, MBAM etc. Based on my experience, Prevx would not detect as many as Avira or A2 overall - particuarly with an on demand test as Prevx needs live infections to use its behavoural analysis. Also A2 and Avira will detect anything - even if it is not a current threat etc. See my post here re testing:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showp...0&postcount=37
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 03:42 AM
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Some things are unavoidable,death,taxes and Avira topping AV tests.
And MBAM coming last!
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 03:46 AM
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I can tell you now, there are going to be many more AM tests, from several well respected testing sites that are going to include MBAM - because Marcin has stated MBAM is a full AM and refuses to make it clear on the website that it should be used with a full AM.

If he wants to pretend MBAM is a full AM, its going to get tested as one.

I think that's fair, but as you can see: It's called "Spyware Remover" at download.com
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:16 AM
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Is this not trustworthy? Are you saying that emsisoft lies too?

Just curious.
Is another none sense test, like you can see on link, already provided by LoneWolf...
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Is another none sense test, like you can see on link, already provided by LoneWolf...
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:37 AM
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Avira seems to keep scoring incredibly well in these "untrustworthy" tests, including AV-comparatives. It's rather strange that this "co-incidence" keeps happening...


Besides a lot of none sense, what I liked more about this "test" was when MikeNash justify that topic, at Wilders, with this!

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Avira seems to keep scoring incredibly well in these "untrustworthy" tests, including AV-comparatives. It's rather strange that this "co-incidence" keeps happening...
Indeed. It is also a "co-incidence" that the same people keep pretending the results are wrong.

The earth is flat etc.

yawn.....
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"Every time I open my mouth some fool speaks."
Nice to have a User like you here, where you just insult others, make posts just to say that you don't care about something that you don't what to see or agree...

Keep going this way my friend

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Old May 22nd, 2009, 05:44 AM
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Ok, lets see if I'm getting it right. Give me some help or information here.

From Emsisoft test thread, Andyman35 posted:

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Also testing MBAM and SAS against static samples doesn't give a true indication of their efficasy if that was how the test was performed,they're designed to detect running malware.

So does this mean that MBAM is useless (to say it someway) if you dont buy it?

The realtime protection does not work, if you dont buy it, right?

I mean if the scanner is not effective...
 

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