KIS 2010

[raven211]

Originally Posted by 3x0gR13N

In normal situations (clean machine), such a thing wont happen. If there's an infection, and IE is changed (for malicious purposes), don't you think it's better to restrict IE?
And if you ask, "The test reverts the original IE afterward... why doesn't KIS place it in Trusted group?"... do you think malware would revert original IE? I doubt it will. This is just a leaktest afterall.

Wouldn't it be better if it limited on that CLT leaktest, and overall, if such action occurs - atleast on that leaktest, but please mention a situation where this would not be a good choice. I just can't seem to figure one which would indeed make such a prompt occur.

[subset]

Originally Posted by 3x0gR13N

In normal situations (clean machine), such a thing wont happen.

Are you kidding? I have tested it with two boxes, each with a clean XP SP3 installation, always the same popup.
Instead of throwing smoke balls some gold beta tester should just install KIS and run CLT.

Originally Posted by 3x0gR13N

If there's an infection, and IE is changed (for malicious purposes), don't you think it's better to restrict IE?

IMHO it would be better to restrict the malicious program and protect the IE from being maltreated.

Cheers

[Marcelo]

Anyone else experiencing wierdness in updating?

I'm not referring to the size of the downloads as I've noticed that many modules are receiving frequent updates and this explains the size but to the fact that sometimes an update starts and stops around 50k and will only complete if you manually stop and restart it.

[Baz_kasp]

Originally Posted by subset

Are you kidding? I have tested it with two boxes, each with a clean XP SP3 installation, always the same popup.
Instead of throwing smoke balls some gold beta tester should just install KIS and run CLT.


IMHO it would be better to restrict the malicious program and protect the IE from being maltreated.

Cheers

So put it in interactive mode....it will not get that far.

Automode is a trade off between usability and security, so obviously it cannot block a lot of actions because of the fact that it would "break" many safe apps too.

[3x0gR13N]

Originally Posted by subset

Are you kidding? I have tested it with two boxes, each with a clean XP SP3 installation, always the same popup.
Instead of throwing smoke balls some gold beta tester should just install KIS and run CLT.

Cheers

Maybe I was unclear... in normal situations (clean machine) IE won't be changed to an unrecognized and non-digitally signed application to begin with, so the popup won't have to appear at all.
(and if you think normal users are using leaktests or that it is considered "normal" and "every day occurrence..."...... )
As for the latter see Baz's post.
P.S oh, and

gold beta tester should just install KIS and run CLT.

... we have... and that's why I/we said it's normal.

[xxJackxx]

Originally Posted by Marcelo

Anyone else experiencing wierdness in updating?

I'm not referring to the size of the downloads as I've noticed that many modules are receiving frequent updates and this explains the size but to the fact that sometimes an update starts and stops around 50k and will only complete if you manually stop and restart it.

Nope not having any update problems. Sometimes it is a little slow but no real issues. As a matter of fact I am so pleased with this version that I went ahead and dumped another product to renew this for another year.

[icr]

Originally Posted by xxJackxx

Nope not having any update problems. Sometimes it is a little slow but no real issues. As a matter of fact I am so pleased with this version that I went ahead and dumped another product to renew this for another year.

Me too quite impressed with this new version still have 89 days left for my
KIS 09 version

Originally Posted by Marcelo

Anyone else experiencing wierdness in updating?

I'm not referring to the size of the downloads as I've noticed that many modules are receiving frequent updates and this explains the size but to the fact that sometimes an update starts and stops around 50k and will only complete if you manually stop and restart it.

i had same problem all the time on clean install, occasionally afteer i installed it over 2009. if i moused overthe icon it said 'updating 0%' when i clicked update center it was hanging, so had to stop and restart and all was well again. the only way i found round this was to turn off auto update and do it manually, now with my memory that's asking for trouble, so as much as i liked the program it's gone for the time being.

[lodore]

I had the updator bug with 2009 version. it had stopped at different percentages in the past.
havent had the issue with kis2010 yet.
dont forget that alot of the 2009 line was made from scratch and the 2010 line has only just gone final. there will be CF's and mp1 to fix the remaining bugs.

[Graystoke]

I had a problem with the updates yesterday. The wife started up the computer yesterday morning, and about five minutes later, I hear her yelling, "there's something wrong with the computer". KIS was in the process of updating, but it was stuck at 0%. I couldn't connect to the internet. I tried doing a restart, but couldn't because everything was frozen. I did a restart at the tower, same situation again. Tried a third time with the same results. Finally uninstalled KIS. Everything back to normal. Not sure I want to reinstall it at this time. Too bad, I was really liking it.

[Baz_kasp]

If anyone has an issue like that which can be reproduced, support->support tools->enable traces, reproduce, disable traces and contact me so I can pass on the trace files to the testing team.

[trjam]

Kaspersky 2010 is very nice with its Sandbox, but that is where it ends. There are so many different roads to go down to check stuff that the average user is really going to be turned off. As far as scanning it totally sucks, yes I said sucks. On my PC which really doesnt have much check out the following screenshots for what I have and how long K says it will take to scan. I have also done this several times and checked scan new and changed files and the best I can get is about a little over an hour. Nope, they really did some good in some areas but, as far as a suite,

[Baz_kasp]

"scanning is dead" and has been for a long time....i don't get why people still make such a big deal out of it. If realtime protection is on why do you still feel the need to compulsively scan every single file on the harddrive, its not like it will turn up anything different to the Realtime protection would if a file decided to execute.... plus it's not like a full scan needs to be done every hour or something so I am pretty sure anyone who really really feels the need to thrash their harddrive for no reason in particular could put up with running it overnight or for a period of time when their pc is not in use..... as you can see KIS doesnt schedule a full scan to run at all because it's not needed....neither is quick scan IMO as realtime proteciton is the thing that matters.

[xxJackxx]

I have very few complaints with the 2010, 1 of them being the Antispam. The preview window that comes up for pop3 accounts (Outlook) only shows 1 email, regardless of how many new emails I have. If I have 5 for example, it will say that there are 5 email total, 1 new, when they are actually all new. This only gives me the opportunity to delete the 1 it considers new while downloading all of the rest of them without getting to preview what they are.

[TJP]

KIS 2010 working great here, without the sandbox browsing enabled.

trjam, a question.

A few pages back you posted:

Originally Posted by trjam

I have been playing with it all afternoon. Sandbox, HIPS, this is the best suite ever created. The sandbox is what now puts Kaspersky about 2 miles ahead of all the rest.

What has changed between then and now?

[trjam]

Time has changed. Dont get me wrong, as I stated there is some really cool stuff in 2010. But the scanning time sucks. And Baz, with all due respect, most average users are going to scan with their AV. I agree with what you are saying but it just hasnt hit mainstream yet with users.

[TJP]

Fair enough trjam.

Full system scanning on my PC is super quick. Was before KIS obtained its iSwift and iChecker data. Same story on my fathers PC.

Again illustrates how no one solution is the "best" for everyone.

Cheers.

[xxJackxx]

Must be some huge compressed file or a lot of them to take that long for a scan. I have about 500GB of data across 2 drives and a full scan took me about a half hour. Though that is on an overclocked quad with 8GB RAM.

[TonyW]

Originally Posted by TJP

Again illustrates how no one solution is the "best" for everyone.

This is so true, but I think the trick, if one has the time, is to find out why it's taking so long on his system, and not on others. There has to be a reason surely.

[dawgg]

Originally Posted by TonyW

This is so true, but I think the trick, if one has the time, is to find out why it's taking so long on his system, and not on others. There has to be a reason surely.

If someone chooses not to use it and not try to figure out why there is a problem and instead chooses to simply use another program, its not a problem.
People are perfectly entitled to use what they want and are not obliged to try to solve any issues if they choose not to

[Baldrick]

Originally Posted by xxJackxx

I have very few complaints with the 2010, 1 of them being the Antispam. The preview window that comes up for pop3 accounts (Outlook) only shows 1 email, regardless of how many new emails I have. If I have 5 for example, it will say that there are 5 email total, 1 new, when they are actually all new. This only gives me the opportunity to delete the 1 it considers new while downloading all of the rest of them without getting to preview what they are.

Me too in terms of the fact that when installed the 'Spam/ & 'Not Spam' toolbar buttons are missing from OE even though AntiSpam is active and does discriminate between spam and not spam...you just cannot change what has been classified incorrectly if you feel that is the case.

Not good...and there appears no intent on the prt of Kaspersky to aknowledge or resolve the issue.

I should stress that this issue is only affecting some users...not all.

[xxJackxx]

Originally Posted by Baldrick

Me too in terms of the fact that when installed the 'Spam/ & 'Not Spam' toolbar buttons are missing from OE even though AntiSpam is active and does discriminate between spam and not spam...you just cannot change what has been classified incorrectly if you feel that is the case.

Not good...and there appears no intent on the prt of Kaspersky to aknowledge or resolve the issue.

I should stress that this issue is only affecting some users...not all.

The issue I am having is on 3 machines, so I can't image it isn't just broken. But I know what you mean about not acknowledging the problem as I have posted on their forum too and this is the only reply I have gotten on the subject.

[Baz_kasp]

Originally Posted by xxJackxx

The issue I am having is on 3 machines, so I can't image it isn't just broken. But I know what you mean about not acknowledging the problem as I have posted on their forum too and this is the only reply I have gotten on the subject.

The testers are reading the forum and they are not obliged to give you an answer if you report a bug. Internal testing/tweaking is ongoing.... unfortunately they do not have time to watch the forum 24/7 as you can imagine...

[xxJackxx]

Originally Posted by Baz_kasp

The testers are reading the forum and they are not obliged to give you an answer if you report a bug. Internal testing/tweaking is ongoing.... unfortunately they do not have time to watch the forum 24/7 as you can imagine...

People report bugs in an effort to help make a better product for everyone. I wasn't saying, "Hey fix my problem now", it was more of me wanting to see someone else say, "You're right, that's broken". I work for a software company myself, and can appreciate that the devs are extremely busy. Thanks for the reply.

[Marcelo]

The Automatic updates problens I had are just gone. Probably something they fixed in one of those huge updates of the first days