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Old July 22nd, 2008, 11:54 PM
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Whats your thought of sunbelt Firewall.I am On a test drive know with vista.Has a Nice Gui look and simple to use with HIPS,NIPS,Behavior blocker seems pretty light so far.How long will it last before it crash and burns on vista.
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Whats your thought of sunbelt Firewall.I am On a test drive know with vista.Has a Nice Gui look and simple to use with HIPS,NIPS,Behavior blocker seems pretty light so far.How long will it last before it crash and burns on vista.
Maybe in the next five minutes. Maybe never. Depends on what you mean by crash and burn.
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 12:08 AM
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Maybe in the next five minutes. Maybe never. Depends on what you mean by crash and burn.
Some third party firewalls say there vista ready but still have some problems running on vista.Crash and burn humor.
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 09:32 PM
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Some third party firewalls say there vista ready but still have some problems running on vista.Crash and burn humor.
Some firewalls say they are XP ready, but still crash and burn....
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Old July 24th, 2008, 03:27 AM
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Some firewall say they will be Vista ready soon and never are
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Old July 24th, 2008, 12:19 PM
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Whats your thought of sunbelt Firewall.I am On a test drive know with vista.Has a Nice Gui look and simple to use with HIPS,NIPS,Behavior blocker seems pretty light so far.How long will it last before it crash and burns on vista.

Doesn't sound like many people are running the sunbelt FW on Vista at the moment FWIW, I'm running it on XP and it's stable. I agree that it has a nice feature set. On my Vista box I'm currently running PC Tools Firewall Plus and I would recommend it if Sunbelt doesn't work out for you.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: Sunbelt personal FireWall For vista.

I'm using the trial version of Sunbelt Firewall for Vista. I'm wondering what security protection is lacking from the free version? I know it isn't a 'leak' proof firewall like OA or Comodo. Does it resist from being terminated by malware?
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I'm using the trial version of Sunbelt Firewall for Vista. I'm wondering what security protection is lacking from the free version? I know it isn't a 'leak' proof firewall like OA or Comodo. Does it resist from being terminated by malware?
At the bottom of this page there is the usual free vs paid feature list:

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/home-...onal-firewall/

I think it functions as paid for 30 days, then reverts to free.

I rather doubt it protects itself too well against termination if that's what you're worried about.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 05:06 PM
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I'm waiting for another security company to release a Vista version (OA). The Sunbelt Firewall seems the most stable in performance compared with the current field of Vista firewalls. It usually remembers the rules and doesn't crash my programs when I fire up my laptop.

What does the Host-based Intrusion Prevention System do? That seems like the major feature missing from the free version besides the web filtering and the password guard.
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Old July 26th, 2008, 05:22 PM
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I'm waiting for another security company to release a Vista version (OA). The Sunbelt Firewall seems the most stable in performance compared with the current field of Vista firewalls. It usually remembers the rules and doesn't crash my programs when I fire up my laptop.

What does the Host-based Intrusion Prevention System do? That seems like the major feature missing from the free version besides the web filtering and the password guard.
Check their user's guide on the web site.....

• Host intrusion detection and prevention system (HIPS) — this system recognizes and blocks malware used by intruders or viruses to run malicious codes

There is probably more in the docs. I recall something about blocking buffer overflows and one or two other things. It doesn't strike me as being particularly effective or advanced at all. I'd look to other products for real HIPS coverage.
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They like to use words like significant improvement over and over with the product description. It would have been nice if they released a white paper on the current firewall.

I'm using Antivir Premium and Norton Antibot for my other security products.
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They like to use words like significant improvement over and over with the product description. It would have been nice if they released a white paper on the current firewall.

I'm using Antivir Premium and Norton Antibot for my other security products.
If you're using Avira and Antibot, I would think that plus just the basic Kerio firewall is enough.

"Significant improvement" sounds more like a marketing term than anything else....
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Whats your thought of sunbelt Firewall.I am On a test drive know with vista.Has a Nice Gui look and simple to use with HIPS,NIPS,Behavior blocker seems pretty light so far.How long will it last before it crash and burns on vista.
I have recently installed SPF on my Vista x32 system and so far it seems like a really nice product. I was wondering if you were still using it or have since moved to another product?
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Old September 9th, 2008, 05:12 PM
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Well actually I am no longer using it. I do not really need a firewall because i am behind a nat sp1 router but more wanted it for its hips since there is not much for vista.until I found Zemana antilogger.All the same sunbelt firewall worked fine for the time I used it thanks.
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Old September 9th, 2008, 09:23 PM
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Well actually I am no longer using it. I do not really need a firewall because i am behind a nat sp1 router but more wanted it for its hips since there is not much for vista.until I found Zemana antilogger.All the same sunbelt firewall worked fine for the time I used it thanks.
Thanks for the info on it. I am behind a NAT router too but since I use laptops mostly, I want to have a software firewall for when I am in public Internet access.
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Old September 10th, 2008, 09:50 AM
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I have recently installed SPF on my Vista x32 system and so far it seems like a really nice product. . .
It is a nice product.

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Old September 10th, 2008, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Sunbelt personal FireWall For vista.

I installed SPF on my setups.Its NIPS (or HIPS) made some issues. I am guessing they don't have a good whitelist.

Anyways, SPF quarentined many drivers and related files. But other than didn't have any other issues.
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I installed SPF on my setups.Its NIPS (or HIPS) made some issues. I am guessing they don't have a good whitelist.

Anyways, SPF quarentined many drivers and related files. But other than didn't have any other issues.
So far I really like it but I have only been running it for a short time yet. Thanks for the info on the HIPS, can you give me a little more details on the kind of issues it made for you? Thanks..
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Old September 10th, 2008, 06:08 PM
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I ve tested Sunbelt,its nice while trialing ,but when it goes in freeware mode it starts popup ing that is in freeware mode or whatever.2 days stayed in my computer when started to do that.The older version didnt anoyed me.
When scanned with KAV the downloaded installer of Sunbelt Firewall was recognized as spyware,i hope it was a false positive, though wireshark showed some comunication.
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I had downloaded the latest Kerio a few days ago, but hadn't installed it yet, then by chance I installed Eeye Blink Personal tonight to have a look, and Blink flagged Kerio as malware here also... It did something and "fixed" it, but it made me wonder what's in the Kerio installer that some AVs are considering malware?
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Old September 11th, 2008, 02:49 AM
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So far I really like it but I have only been running it for a short time yet. Thanks for the info on the HIPS, can you give me a little more details on the kind of issues it made for you? Thanks..
It quarentined by WebCam drivers as injection-attacks. And my BT driver for suspicious item.

I logged a bug report with Sunbelt, they asked me to add them in exclude list. Probably they might have fixed in later builds.
But since, SPF doesn't have a auto-updating rule base like OutPost Pro. I am not sure, if the changes have been done already
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I had downloaded the latest Kerio a few days ago, but hadn't installed it yet, then by chance I installed Eeye Blink Personal tonight to have a look, and Blink flagged Kerio as malware here also... It did something and "fixed" it, but it made me wonder what's in the Kerio installer that some AVs are considering malware?
Kaspersky also flagged it as Malware. Some adware.
I sent the sample to KL, they said it was a FP.
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Old September 11th, 2008, 08:58 AM
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I dont know, in beta stages BD 2008 Deep Scan was hanging with SFP installed.They put something in this firewall ,in latest version.Im wondering if that comunication can be exploited by an atacker and compromise the computers that use SFP.I cant trust it anymore.As i said Wireshark showed me that SFP was comunicating outside though there is no autoupdate in the software itself and the check for updates was turned off in the GUI.
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I had downloaded the latest Kerio a few days ago, but hadn't installed it yet, then by chance I installed Eeye Blink Personal tonight to have a look, and Blink flagged Kerio as malware here also... It did something and "fixed" it, but it made me wonder what's in the Kerio installer that some AVs are considering malware?


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Kaspersky also flagged it as Malware. Some adware.
I sent the sample to KL, they said it was a FP.

avira premium also flagged it as malware "adware"

so that , i think it is NOT a false positive
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Old September 11th, 2008, 10:17 AM
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avira premium also flagged it as malware "adware"

so that , i think it is NOT a false positive
Its a FP.
I mailed KL, they have confirmed its a FP and updated the VDB as of Sept 5, 2008.

I checked now, KIS 2009 doesn't flag it as Adware (Adware.Win32.Dm.qc).
 

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