Wilders Security Forums  

Go Back   Wilders Security Forums > Archived Forums > Closed Sub-Forums > Archive of Acronis Support Forums > Acronis True Image Product Line
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Acronis Forum Sections Closed!
As of August 15, 2009: Please be aware that the Acronis Forum sections have closed. No new threads or replies may be made in these sections. See this announcement for more information.
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old June 3rd, 2008, 08:37 PM
howie123's Avatar
howie123 howie123 is offline
Infrequent Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 48
Default True Image Verify Question

Hi, guys...
I was just curious if the verify function in TI (I'm using TI 10) actually does a bit by bit verification of the original data or uses some other method to determine the validity of an image.
Thanks for any responses!
howie
  #2  
Old June 3rd, 2008, 09:01 PM
vukodlak75's Avatar
vukodlak75 vukodlak75 is offline
Infrequent Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 32
Default Re: True Image Verify Question

Intersting to know
__________________
One day older, one step closer.
  #3  
Old June 4th, 2008, 12:01 AM
MudCrab's Avatar
MudCrab MudCrab is offline
Imaging Specialist
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California
Posts: 6,296
Default Re: True Image Verify Question

As posted by seekforever:
Quote:
The validation process causes the archive file to be opened, read and the checksums to be recalculated and compared with the ones stored in the archive file. There are 4000 checksums per gigabyte of archive and they all must agree perfectly or the archive is declared corrupt.
TI does not do a bit-by-bit validation. There is no comparison between the original data backed up and the data stored in the image file.
__________________
MudCrab's Website
  #4  
Old June 4th, 2008, 10:05 AM
shieber's Avatar
shieber shieber is offline
Massive Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,710
Default Re: True Image Verify Question

Note that this method of validation can give a false negative. Basically, a crrupt file declaratiin rally means, unable to successfully recreate the same checksums. This could be becasue a file is corrupt. However, if the program cannot proporerly read the file, it will not be able to successfully match checksums even though the file might fine. Some folks experience this when trying to validate a file on USB that validates fine on an interanl drive -- or when using the bootCD. However, as often noted, if the prog can't validate a file when run from the bootCd, there's a good chance it woun't be able to read the file properly to do restore, even thought the file is fine.


So, at best, it's an ersatz method for verifying a file's integrity and fidelity to the original data. Why do it this way? Usually, the original data no longer exists (not all of it) -- system drives keep changing all the time, same with data files, sometimes even while the backup is being created. So a methof to compare to the original data is problematic in at least a couple of critical ways.
__________________
Use Win task scheduler, post #3:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=189475

Need to really uninstall TrueImage Home?
  #5  
Old June 4th, 2008, 01:40 PM
howie123's Avatar
howie123 howie123 is offline
Infrequent Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 48
Default Re: True Image Verify Question

Thanks for the replies, guys... Someone in another forum had asked about verify times and another poster explained to me that a created image cannot possibly be compared to the data originally backed up as this is always changing, even immediately after or during an image (if imaging is done inside the OS). I appreciate the info! :-)

Last edited by howie123 : June 4th, 2008 at 01:46 PM.
 

Wilders Security Forums > Archived Forums > Closed Sub-Forums > Archive of Acronis Support Forums > Acronis True Image Product Line « Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2002 - 2013, Wilders Security Forums