Anti-Malware Test Lab and AV-Comparatives.org announce alliance

[A_Shabanov]

Friends, i suggest to you fresh news:

"The renowned test labs Anti-Malware Test Lab and AV-Comparatives.org have agreed to establish a strategic partnership.

The alliance will allow the partners to become one of the most respected sources of objective and independent information about antivirus products and strengthen their position in the industry. It will also give independent tests and expert analyses more weight.

Within the framework of the alliance, Anti-Malware Test Lab and AV-Comparatives.org plan to create a unified set of antivirus software tests and to join forces in improving testing methodologies, assembling test collections and interpreting test results for the public.

Anti-Malware Test Lab and AV-Comparatives.org intend to create a unique system of integrated tests for antivirus solutions by the end of 2008. This signals a marked shift to a new level of software assessment, since users currently only have recourse to tests based on individual protection components.

"We are very pleased to have reached an alliance agreement with AV-Comparatives.org. Our labs are the first to start the process of consolidating the work of the various independent centers that test information security products. I’m sure that our partnership will act as a driving force for the development of the industry as a whole," commented Sergey Ilyin, founder of Anti-Malware Test Lab.

"The partnership with Anti-Malware Test Lab will allow us to evaluate more aspects of antivirus software and to offer users a more comprehensive independent view of various security products. If the alliance prove itself to be valuable, we will consider collaboration with more test centers worldwide, though all of us will remain independent," said Andreas Clementi, the founder of AV-Comparatives.org .

Anti-Malware Test Lab is an independent test laboratory. The test lab is a subsidiary of Anti-Malware.ru, an authoritative Russian analytical portal devoted to software products that provide protection against various types of malicious code. The laboratory is best known for its testing of active infection treatments, antivirus self-protection, as well as the effectiveness of anti-rootkit and proactive protection.

AV-Comparatives.org , founded by Andreas Clementi and located in Austria, is one of the most reputed and respected independent anti-virus software test labs in the world. The antivirus testing for on-demand and retrospective/proactive detection rate of malicious programs has earned it market-wide recognition. Other currently delivered tests cover false alarm rates, scan speed, polymorphic virus detection, etc. "

Now, you can read about this news here:
1) About alliance - Av-comparatives.org
2) About alliance - Anti-malware Test Lab

I am very interested your views on this matter

[sergeyko]

Too bad.

[Jadda]

Originally Posted by sergeyko

Too bad.

May I ask why?

[Mele20]

Originally Posted by Jadda

May I ask why?

I think because DrWeb, along with F-Prot, declined to participate in the most recent AV-Comparatives tests. There is a long thread here about why both declined. (A very interesting thread that everyone should read).

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showt...V+comparatives

[C.S.J]

I don't think drweb will be very happy about this,

Is partnership, another word for influence.

Will av-comparatives be influencing the results and testing of anti-malware.ru?

[trjam]

As I always say,"If you cant whup-em, join-em."

[solcroft]

Originally Posted by trjam

As I always say,"If you cant whup-em, join-em."

Or, when there's no evidence, resort to insidious allegations.

Oh well, there goes the neighborhood. Looks like we'll have to rely solely on PC Magazine and PC World reviews from now on.



Regards,
Jim

[kinwolf]

Originally Posted by C.S.J

Will av-comparatives be influencing the results and testing of anti-malware.ru?

And why wouldn't it be the other way around? Maybe something really good will come out of this.

[C.S.J]

yes, it could be but until I know, got that weary feeling.

[solcroft]

Originally Posted by C.S.J

yes, it could be but until I know, got that weary feeling.

And why is that?

Are there any past events or precedents to indicate unscrupulousness on AV-C's part?

Or is this just another one of your many "opinions"?

[sergeyko]

Originally Posted by Jadda

May I ask why?

Well, I don't think this alliance will be any good to anyone. Besides Anti-Malware and AV-Comparatives.org, of course.
I don't think it'll make them any better in testing or add them any piece of independance.
Both of them will feel more significant in this world. Have that ever brought something good?

I can't see any other reason for such an alliance.

[trjam]

Gimme a A
Gimme a E
Gimme a V
Gimme a S
Gimme a I
Gimme a E
Gimme a R
Gimme a T
Gimme a A

Whats that spell? Go Avira and Eset.

Hmm, no Dr Web in it.

[s4u]

You funny guy

[solcroft]

Originally Posted by sergeyko

I can't see any other reason for such an alliance.

So why don't you ask them?

I also see no reason for you to take every opportunity to take potshots at them, but unlike you, I'm extending the courtesy to you to ask you why. What is it that you have against IBK, exactly? If there are valid reasons - do tell.

[trjam]

Sorry solcroft, think he just hit the "Log Out" button.

[solcroft]

Wouldn't be the first time.

[IBK]

av-c will just support amtl by making them more popular. we will both remain independent also from each other, but if amtl wants too, they can use our results and viceversa. i do not see anything bad in supporting other smaller testers.

[Banshee]

Originally Posted by solcroft

So why don't you ask them?

I also see no reason for you to take every opportunity to take potshots at them, but unlike you, I'm extending the courtesy to you to ask you why. What is it that you have against IBK, exactly? If there are valid reasons - do tell.

Solcroft, I think they already said what they don't like in another thread awhile back. If you want valid reasons I have the feeling you won't get any besides the usual misinformation and propaganda floating around on a regular basis.

Let's see what happens

[sergeyko]

Originally Posted by solcroft

So why don't you ask them?

Do I need to? No, thanks. They asked for opinions they've got mine.

Originally Posted by solcroft

I also see no reason for you to take every opportunity to take potshots at them, but unlike you, I'm extending the courtesy to you to ask you why. What is it that you have against IBK, exactly? If there are valid reasons - do tell.

Wow a tough talk!
Why do you think I have anything against him? I just don't think his test gives a real picture. That's it.

What you call "every opportunity to take potshots at them" is just your imagination, or maybe you just mixed me up with someone else. Look through my posts, there are not many of them here, I wrote about drweb mostly.

Originally Posted by solcroft

Wouldn't be the first time.

Have I pushed you when we met?

[C.S.J]

maybe he means me Sergey,

but I don't see his messages

FYI - I have absolutely nothing against ibk, he's alright to talk to for sure.

[Dorn]

Originally Posted by sergeyko

Why do you think I have anything against him? I just don't think his test gives a real picture. That's it.

+2 Count me on this too, i really dont belive in his av test eather.
Dont have anything against him.
But really confuised, its just a man alone and we dont have any guarantee if his test is correct to 100%.

[IBK]

one man alone? you have obviously no idea what you are talking about.

[sergeyko]

Originally Posted by IBK

one man alone? you have obviously no idea what you are talking about.

Well, let's rephrase "But really confuised, its just 5 men alone and we dont have any guarantee if their test is correct to 100%."
Does it really matter?

You cannot deny the AV tests need improving, if not say complete changing. You too participate in that process and that's not out of the blue.

[IBK]

Did I deny?
Which tester gives a 100,0% guarantee? Which software developer gives 100% guarantee about his software (without lying i mean)?
btw, 8 is the correct number atm.