VappWare Real Time Browser Protection(Browser Condom)

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by Peter2150

Given your rational for the word Condom, given the connotation it has it is not good. It seems most of the people who seek out computer advice from me are women. I would recommend Sandboxie, and can easily explain what a sandbox is. No way am I going to recommend a product with the name Condom.

I think you can do better than that.

Pete

Browser Gum?

I dont know a lot of womans,neither hers brain, but i have many woman friends. and they use to carry in hers womans purse condoms.
And they use them to protect against virus.
dont be unassertive. We are in the 21th century, until no other prevention ways were had found, we must use the Condom and talk about it
Its the only way to prevent many disease!
Joking if you want you can still play in the sandbox making towers and castles. my fella, meanwhile i ll use Browser Condom
With my sincerely and good intention

[Tarq57]

mswiczar,
Purely regarding the name, it is a clever analogy, as is sandbox, to describe a similar "blocking" or virtualization function.
I'd expect to see a certain user resistance/disinterest because of it, though, partly because of potentially seedy connotations.
A lot of users are quite adult enough not to balk at Condom as the name of a valid security application, but, frankly, if it's something I (and I reckon, quite a few others) wouldn't be comfortable explaining to a child, it's not something I'd want to install. This attitude might be fairly prevalent, especially so in some countries/cultures more than others.
Very clever, though, and I wish you luck.

[sukarof]

Hi mswiczar and welcome to the forum. I like the name of your software. If it works like a virtual condom it is descriptive imo and it helps to de-dramatize that dangerous word
When I click at your link it says http://h<i>tt</i%3Ep://www.vappware.com what is the red part?

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by sukarof

Hi mswiczar and welcome to the forum. I like the name of your software. If it works like a virtual condom it is descriptive imo and it helps to de-dramatize that dangerous word
When I click at your link it says http://h<i>tt</i%3Ep://www.vappware.com what is the red part?

Thanks, this is the URL

hxxp://www.vappware.com

Originally Posted by Peter2150

Given your rational for the word Condom, given the connotation it has it is not good. It seems most of the people who seek out computer advice from me are women. I would recommend Sandboxie, and can easily explain what a sandbox is. No way am I going to recommend a product with the name Condom.

I think you can do better than that.

Pete

I agree. The very use of that term to try to bring attention to a security software only tells us one thing. You copy/paste others code to create your so-called rubber balloon and additionally you obviously don't frequent security forums or else you would know what is mutually acceptable and what throws up big red flags like you have offered in this topic. No criticism just the facts.

Personally the lousy use of that name alone is enough to discount any efforts you might have hoped to accomplish, including feedback. I stop short of spamming because you might can't help the environment that surrounds you to have drawed up such a ludicrous title let alone another experimental sandbox if thats what it's really about.

Over and out. EASTER

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by EASTER.2010

I agree. The very use of that term to try to bring attention to a security software only tells us one thing. You copy/paste others code to create your so-called rubber balloon and additionally you obviously don't frequent security forums or else you would know what is mutually acceptable and what throws up big red flags like you have offered in this topic. No criticism just the facts.

Personally the lousy use of that name alone is enough to discount any efforts you might have hoped to accomplish, including feedback. I stop short of spamming because you might can't help the environment that surrounds you to have drawed up such a ludicrous title let alone another experimental sandbox if thats what it's really about.

Over and out. EASTER

Hi, i did not copy and paste any software. this is an abusive and injurious.
Just for use The Condom in My Project.
I want to ask you something.

Are you a programmer? did you wrote any kind of software?
Did u eve developed any kind of software in ring 0.
Did you ever debug a crash dump.
If u did, congrats,for me was a pain to do it. and i ll finish it.

And in the future, i ll want to discuss with you perfomance issues, and security things. No just injuries.
Go to the site and read.
Use any virtual machine to test my software, and tellme whats your opinion.
If you tell me that my software do not work well, i ll solve the bugs. but please
just keept talking about Security.
The name of this place is other anti-malware software and Browser Condom is IT!

I make my best efort and YES, Its Marketing but i dont sell drugs, i just want to let the pepope know what is the risk of just plug and play Microsoft Wuindows software.

I dont have nothin more to speak with you. Enjoy the life if you can.
And go rest because its more than 8m.
No eat fats, go to the church on sunday and never speak about sex with yours children.

Yes ITS MARKETING. i hope ll could reduce the number of infection spyware, malware and if i could AIDS transmision

Best Regard

Moises

[Seer]

Hey mswiczar.

This is way better marketing than the one you initialy started with. I understand that you have a language barrier, but you have to be convincing here and take the control of this (your) thread. Come up with a good marketing scheme, ask someone to help you in that if you can. This is very important. And try to somehow persuade people that your software is the right thing.

Cheers.

That last post completely satisfies my own curiosity.

As i already alluded to if you bothered to take it to heart, no criticism is intended on my reply even if you find it on the opposite end of discussion.

Programmer? That's for me to know and you to find out. If it helps ease the burden i have "years" experience in many programming languages and done my fair share of compiling but i stop there because unless or untill i formally make a declaration or other announcement of some release of a design, that's better left for when or if that time comes.

~Snip~

[Perman]

Hi, inventor: I know you are a smart fellow, w/ super IQ, armed w/ strong desire to save the world from virus infection, and high anticipation to capture the world w/ the first piecemeal, but you have started all these with a very wrong footing: you have offended your potential users by saying this,by arguing that. At end of the day, you gain nothing but disrespect. I dare to bet you one loonie that any poster on your thread would have walked more mileage on foot than you would have driven in car. They have more wakening hours than your adult lifetime. Be humble, learning from peers, otherwise your baby will stay in your incubator for a long long time. Just my loonie sense. I do hope you guide yourself accordingly.

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by The Seer

Hey mswiczar.

This is way better marketing than the one you initialy started with. I understand that you have a language barrier, but you have to be convincing here and take the control of this (your) thread. Come up with a good marketing scheme, ask someone to help you in that if you can. This is very important. And try to somehow persuade people that your software is the right thing.

Cheers.

My Fella, i dont try to convince to nobody.
When i have the Beta or any RC, we could chat again.

I know that the name is correct, this noise is good.
Sandboxie could be beter than my first approach, but i did not ever hear about it.
I hope the name condom ll make noise like it does in this thread.

Thanks in advance.
Moises

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by Perman

Hi, inventor: I know you are a smart fellow, w/ super IQ, armed w/ strong desire to save the world from virus infection, and high anticipation to capture the world w/ the first piecemeal, but you have started all these with a very wrong footing: you have offended your potential users by saying this,by arguing that. At end of the day, you gain nothing but disrespect. I dare to bet you one loonie that any poster on your thread would have walked more mileage on foot than you would have driven in car. They have more wakening hours than your adult lifetime. Be humble, learning from peers, otherwise your baby will stay in your incubator for a long long time. Just my loonie sense. I do hope you guide yourself accordingly.

Please could you tellme why all the people injury me, just for use the Word Condom.
i allways speak with cortesy. and with a little jokes.
i m only tell you this thing
i put this treat here to have opinions, testesr and the only thing that i received is just finish and then will see.
Yes my Lords


SORRY for think in a diferent way!!!

[Seer]

Hello again.

The name is not really that important if the software is of high quality. It can easily be changed, however, the errors in code are a bit of a pain.

Originally Posted by mswiczar

When i have the Beta or any RC, we could chat again.

I look forward to it.

Regards,

[mswiczar]

Originally Posted by EASTER.2010

I do have a better suggestion for you though, how about Kotex. A program to help stop microsoft's code bleeding.

Its a nice Joke.

[Notok]

You know, it's funny.. someone else used the word "condom" in the name of their sandbox program that was similar to DropMyRights. When that one was brought up everyone took it in stride and with a sense of humor, now everyone's acting like this guy is making personal attacks.

He's produced a freeware version of software that has become fairly popular around here, I'm a little surprised at the total lack of respect. He even offers technical details of the like that hardly any others do. As far as the program being buggy, the fact that it's in alpha should have provided a rather blatantly obvious clue.

Once upon a time, Wilders was a place where we could come to discuss software on a technical level. We could learn the technology and were thrilled to see something new to try. You could actually learn something about security, and not just brand names. Now it seems to be just the opposite.

To each his own right? The name wasn't really as much some incredible issue as the follow up post posture taken IMO. That said is all i needed to see.

All i can add at this point is have fun with your browser condoms and hope the program at least makes up for the ridiculous rise some seem to get by dropping names even when they carry connatations of explicitives some CAN view as mundane.

If it was meant to infer humor then it's a resounding success, but come on, let's grow up here and at least try to act responsibly. Try marketing it in that manner, even as freeware. After all if you're dead set on it why not go ahead and announce another version along the lines of TROJAN or something. That seems to be fairly popular in gas stations and pharmacies.

[Notok]

To each his own right? The name wasn't really as much some incredible issue as the follow up post posture taken IMO. That said is all i needed to see.

I think perhaps the language barrier has gotten the better of you (something I deal with on a daily basis); I didn't see anything offensive said on the side of the programmer (although I can kinda sorta see how it might be seen that way). All I really saw was him trying to explain that it was simply the easiest way to convey the concept of the program and how it works. He's also correct in saying that it's the 21st century and we're all adults, the word "condom" is not a dirty or vulgar word.

OK Notok, you made your case in support. I don't harbor no ill will to this topic just find it rather tacky but that's my own personal impressions and i realize others view it differently. I don't want this Topic to go off on some venture that terms used to name a product become an issue ok?

My replies we're just an initial reaction (not knee-jerk) that we might have something here leading to nothing of any real interest in PC security & drift away from the core of a valid introduction to a program.

You do have to admit though that the very reference can be easily misinterpreted or viewed as a joke.

~Snip~

[Peter2150]

Actually it doesn't matter. If mswiczar is doing this as a hobby, then cool. BUT if he is doing it as a business and wants to sell a product, then he needs to realize, that his opinion, about a name, is totally irrelevant, it's the markets opinion that matters.

Condom is not all that new or original, but hasn't been used. Hey Notok, I notice it's nowhere in Prevx1's name. , and for a reason. It may be cute, but a lot of decent products die over these kinds of things.

Good luck

Pete

[Pedro]

Originally Posted by Notok

You know, it's funny.. someone else used the word "condom" in the name of their sandbox program that was similar to DropMyRights. When that one was brought up everyone took it in stride and with a sense of humor, now everyone's acting like this guy is making personal attacks.

He's produced a freeware version of software that has become fairly popular around here, I'm a little surprised at the total lack of respect. He even offers technical details of the like that hardly any others do. As far as the program being buggy, the fact that it's in alpha should have provided a rather blatantly obvious clue.

Once upon a time, Wilders was a place where we could come to discuss software on a technical level. We could learn the technology and were thrilled to see something new to try. You could actually learn something about security, and not just brand names. Now it seems to be just the opposite.

Words of wisdom.
When i asked why condom, i didn't expect this. Of course, it's not a consequence of what i said, but i'm still surprised. It's just a name.
But i must make note that what Peter says is different. He's not being disrespectful, just expressing his opinion.

Easter: he's was polite, and his choice for the name of his freeware program should not be a big deal. The program should.

[StevieO]

@ mswiczar

I appauld your efforts which i feel are sincere. And having a sense of humour is appreciated, by me anyway, but unfortunately not everybody has one, or is always on the same wavelength as some other people ! I've learnt that sometimes we have to self moderate ourselves a little, as long as it's recipricated by others, we then have less chance of misunderstandings and falling out between us.

I understand why you initially might have thought Browser Condom was a good/catchy name. But in the long run to appeal to the most people amount of people who could use it, i think it would be better to think of a different name. Maybe something like Browser Safe for example.

Never be (SORRY for thinking in a different way!!!) that's how advances are made.

Actually Browser Condom has been used before.

http://www.browsercondom.com

Firefox condom

http://software.silicon.com/security...9129700,00.htm

I'm sure there was another application with the same or similar name. but i couldn't find it in time.

I hope your project matures nicely into a secure application, and don't be too put off by others views, but do take them into consideration as they are trying to help.


StevieO

[Acid_JJ]

I don't care about the name. I will try if this works.

Cheers.

[Meriadoc]

You know, it's funny.. someone else used the word "condom" in the name of their sandbox program

I was thinking this when reading the thread but just couldn't think of the name until I followed the link.

The pictures at VappWare of ie, outlook with the condom over them and the pictures with browsers in the little foil packets was quite funny, and unexpected - thanks for the laugh.
Anyway enough of the name the protection is whats important.

[BrainWarp]

But the world would be a better place if more condoms were used. Even a cyber condom

[ronjor]

Discuss the software only.

[GES/POR]

Maybe it would be better if the programmer would first get the pope's blessings so he can call of the hounds on this thread!