The Cleaner 4.0 Pro Upgrade Plan

Just only for your info:

Daniel has recently announced the upgrade plan for The Cleaner 4.0 Pro.

Registered users of The Cleaner might like to read the info at the following thread at the MooSoft-forum:

http://www.moosoft.com/forum/viewtop...asc&highlight=

[Third_Eye]

This is a very good initiative taken. its very important that the cleaner sud be upgraded and it will help in the identification and removal of a lot of new trojan horses that have come up recently. the upgradation can make the cleaner much more strong and powerful.

[Thomas M]

As a registered user of "The Cleaner 3" I am thinking about the upgrade to version 4.

Since there are many competitive anti-trojan programs on the market, do you think it is worth spending 16 Dollars for the latest version 4 of The Cleaner ??

On Wilders.org one can read about the Cleaner:
"Cannot cope with polymorphic trojans!"
I do not know much about polymorphic trojans, but in general does it mean that there are better scanners out there ?? For my ionline-behaviour: I am just a standard user of the internet getting a bunch of E-mails each day. But I need to be online for almost 20 hours each day (No, not for fun )

Thanks for help,
Thomas

[Paul Wilders]

quoting: Thomas M link=board=25;threadid=15251;start=0#msg103747 date=1069677987]
As a registered user of "The Cleaner 3" I am thinking about the upgrade to version 4.

Since there are many competitive anti-trojan programs on the market, do you think it is worth spending 16 Dollars for the latest version 4 of The Cleaner ??

That's actually hard to say at this moment; version 4 has to be tested first

On Wilders.org one can read about the Cleaner:
"Cannot cope with polymorphic trojans!"

Correct - no info on this in regard to version 4 though.

I do not know much about polymorphic trojans, but in general does it mean that there are better scanners out there ??

BOClean, TDS3 and TrojanHunter (in alphabetical order) all do a far better job then the (at least former) The Cleaner.

For my ionline-behaviour: I am just a standard user of the internet getting a bunch of E-mails each day. But I need to be online for almost 20 hours each day (No, not for fun )

A good updated(resident running) antivirus plus mailscanner, resident running antitrojan and well configured firewall plus up to date patched O/S is recommended.

regards,

paul

[peter.ewido]

version 4.0 again fails to detect donalddick... it looks like it's still the same bad engine...

[Paul Wilders]

quoting: fish25 link=board=25;threadid=15251;start=0#msg103840 date=1069704839]
version 4.0 again fails to detect donalddick... it looks like it's still the same bad engine...

I'll take it, you''ve been testing version 4 A screen shot coming with your statement would be appreciated.

regards.

paul

[peter.ewido]

hmm, i don't know how, it just says: Scan Completed - No trojans were detected with an empty report... it doesn't even save a log... it seems like you have to test it for yourself, sorry ;(

[Godzilla]

quoting: Thomas M link=board=25;threadid=15251;start=0#msg103747 date=1069677987]
"Cannot cope with polymorphic trojans!"

Polymorph trojans doesn't exist. Only polymorph Trojan Dropper. For instance SMorph Dropper for Donald Dick.

[Marianna]

Hi fish 25,

I'm also running The Cleaner 4 - to view the log you only have to click on: "File \ view log" -

Hope this helps

[Paul Wilders]

quoting: Godzilla link=board=25;threadid=15251;start=0#msg103900 date=1069716972]

Polymorph trojans doesn't exist. Only polymorph Trojan Dropper. For instance SMorph Dropper for Donald Dick.

Indeed - a matter of semantics to avoid endless discussions

fish,

hmm, i don't know how, it just says: Scan Completed - No trojans were detected....it seems like you have to test it for yourself, sorry ;(

That seems proof of your pudding. We'll give version 4 a try as soon as Moosoft rolls out the upgrade tickets and time permits.

regards.

paul

[peter.ewido]

@Marianna:
thanks, but the button is only clickable if something was found
ah ok, now i know what you mean...

[25.11.2003 13:06:50]Scanning...
[25.11.2003 13:06:51] 10 files scanned in 0m:1s @ 10 files/s

but it's not really the information i wanted...

[Marianna]

Fish

Now I am a bit "confused"

In TC 4 you click at the top of the screen on "file" - it will open - then go to "view log" - if something is NOT o.k. it will show up there. Otherwise you only will find info about: date, time, which OS, loading options, etc.

BTW - did you load the option: "scan inside compressed files and scan for hidden exectables" ?? You'll find it by going: "Options" (at the top) > scanning.

Hope this helps

[peter.ewido]

sure, but... the cleaner doesn't detect donalddick so it's not showing up there

[Marianna]

You mean this one??

http://virusall.com/donald_dick.html

I can try to find out

[Marianna]

I just found it in the database !!

Donald Dick - Created: September 19, 1999

Type: Dropper

[waldo]

This link will bring you to the Moosoft (The Cleaner) forum where i asked a few weeks ago a question about Donald dick and other polymorph troians/droppers

http://www.moosoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1504&sid=69f423be5aad4b659796b580a4223fe3

Kind regards,

Waldo

[waldo]

well, I just downloaded Donald Dick v1.54 and v1.55 and The Cleaner 3.5 detected them both. Antivir PE did to (had to disable first).

I didn't try to run the client or server (not on my main Pc ) but only scanned the complete package in .Zip format.

Waldo

[_anvil]

I didn't try to run the client or server (not on my main Pc ) but only scanned the complete package in .Zip format.

That doesn't say much, because the zip package doesn't contain any "final" polymorphic server (dropper)...

You'll have to create some droppers with the building tool (which comes with the package) yourself, if you want to properly test The Cleaner.

BTW: AntiVir does _not_ detect the DD 1.54 droppers...

[peter.ewido]

jup, it only detects the client + generator

[controler]

trying the newest version TRIAL and it finds none of my samples. They are only Zipped..

con