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Old October 27th, 2006, 11:59 AM
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Default System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 out of beta

System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 released

What's new:
* new application rule concept: application groups;
* added new module: Windows Hooks;
* added hidden process (rootkit) detection (eg. FU, FUTo etc.);
* added support for Windows XP Fast User Switching;
* added version info to the tray icon tooltip;
* added PID to the App Activity dialog for both Parent and Child processes;
* added new registry objects to the default registry rules;
* several language updates.

Bugs fixed:
* registry browser status bar shows misplaced value;
* unexpectedly closing SSM on remote desktop session;
* tray icon is occassionally grey after booting up &logging on;
* CPU graph tooltip redrawing;
* select columns dialog appears at the same position;
* command-line parameters editing bug;
* access violation after disabling Learning Mode;
* minor GUI issue with "Resize to content";
* minor GUI bugs.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 out of beta

This version is still in Beta. (full release version 2.1.15.592)

http://syssafety.com/files.html
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Old October 27th, 2006, 01:38 PM
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Oh sorry about that. I just received the e-mail notification that 2.2.0.593 was released. It didn't mention that it is still a beta.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 01:42 PM
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Oh sorry about that.
No problem,...
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I just received the e-mail notification that 2.2.0.593 was released
I thought the same thing on receiving the e-mail.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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No problem,...
I thought the same thing on receiving the e-mail.
You are not allone in this.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 03:18 PM
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i thought the same lol.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 out of beta

Side note for those of us using the free version. It has been updated as well. 2.0.8.583 Non-beta of course.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 out of beta

The release notes page hasn't been completely updated with this information.
http://syssafety.com/releasenotes.html

Please note that versions 2.0.x.x are the only versions that will work with Windows 98. The other program versions will not.
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Old October 27th, 2006, 07:48 PM
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Oh sorry about that. I just received the e-mail notification that 2.2.0.593 was released. It didn't mention that it is still a beta.
I thought as you did. I awakened when I noticed the download included "beta" in its title. I'm not in a beta-testing mode right now, but the list of changes in this version was tooooo sweet for me to pass up. So I installed it. Running steady and on course.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:09 AM
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the new SSM 2.2 lets u control outbound network access correct?

can someone post memory usage screenshot? also does disabling any of its features decrease memory usage?
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Old October 28th, 2006, 02:44 PM
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the new SSM 2.2 lets u control outbound network access correct?
Well, it did give full control of internet access to all applications,... but for some reason, they have changed the rules,... giving "csrss.exe", "smss.exe" and "lsass.exe" full access (Allow access to untrusted addresses),... This certainly puts me off using the latest SSM(beta) for internet access control.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 07:43 PM
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Well, it did give full control of internet access to all applications,... but for some reason, they have changed the rules,... giving "csrss.exe", "smss.exe" and "lsass.exe" full access (Allow access to untrusted addresses),... This certainly puts me off using the latest SSM(beta) for internet access control.
Oooops. I thought I found a way to edit those rules, but the changes didn't remain in place.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 out of beta

Hm, i am not running the Beta, but how i understood Stem, and also some folks mentioned it in the SSM forum, the Beta has regarding to these 3 files ("csrss.exe", "smss.exe" and "lsass.exe") so called 'hardcore rules' which can't be changed. If that is realy so, i also won't install this version.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 09:24 PM
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Side note for those of us using the free version. It has been updated as well. 2.0.8.583 Non-beta of course.
Can anyone please advise if the latest 2.0.8.583 update has been downloaded and INSTALLED, can the previous,
2.0.8.574
2.0.8.579
2.0.8.581
2.0.8.582
which are all carrying 3 odd MB's, be safely Deleted ?

TIA.
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Hm, i am not running the Beta, but how i understood Stem, and also some folks mentioned it in the SSM forum, the Beta has regarding to these 3 files ("csrss.exe", "smss.exe" and "lsass.exe") so called 'hardcore rules' which can't be changed. If that is realy so, i also won't install this version.
I posted this issue on SSM's forum at LINK.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.593 out of beta

That's good news, that these rules can be changed. Perhaps in a later beta phase i will install it.
Yes the SSM folkes are very open to suggestions. I am since sometime in email contact with Vitali, a very respective and open minded person.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:13 PM
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That's good news, that these rules can be changed.
No, the rules are hard_coded,... they cannot be edited/removed.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:22 PM
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No, the rules are hard_coded,... they cannot be edited/removed.
You are sooo right! (Blushing).

I discovered that my changes did not stay in place, but disappeared. I then edited my posts above, but not fast enough to avoid having everyone know that I have again stepped on my dork. Ah well, such is life.

I have reported this issue on SSM's forum. I hope others (Stem especially) will pass further comments to the SSM folks.

By the way, do I NEED to activate SSM's network rules module? I'm have only the one computer. Kerio 2.1.5 is monitoring outgoing. So why do I need any further scrutiny of outgoing stuff by SSM?
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:23 PM
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I posted this issue on SSM's forum at LINK.
I posted about this on friday (as soon as I noticed the change) link but the post as been past by up to now from the SSM team.
I hope more will post to have these "allow access to untrusted addresses" rules left to the user to decide,....... and not be hard_coded to allow.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:25 PM
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By the way, do I NEED to activate SSM's network rules module?
No, you can leave this disabled. (I have been using this module due to testing "packet filters" (no app control))
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:34 PM
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I posted about this on friday (as soon as I noticed the change) link but the post as been past by up to now from the SSM team.
I hope more will post to have these "allow access to untrusted addresses" rules left to the user to decide,....... and not be hard_coded to allow.
I just added an "amen" to your post over at SSM. I missed it before. Sorry. Thanks for the advice on the network rule. I have accordingly disabled it.

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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:40 PM
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Folks you make me crazy; Yes - No - Yes - No.

Ok, this morning (my time) i also send Vitali an email about my/our concern. Nice thread on SSM forum, the 3 musketeers; Stem, Benjamin and mi. I am meeting you guys every where.
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Old October 28th, 2006, 10:42 PM
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I just added an "amen" to your post over at SSM.
Thanks,.. I will be sending an e-mail if the post is left unanswered.
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I missed it before. Sorry.
No problem
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Thanks for the advice on the network rule. I have accordingly disabled it.
The network access rules was an addition asked for by myself and others,.. but these are not needed if you have an application firewall installed (unless the firewall as hard_coded rules to allow its own applications internet access,..... and ya can block um)

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I sure hope so,...
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Old October 30th, 2006, 07:07 AM
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I got response from SSM regarding the hardcore rules:
It says, that they will allow editing of the network permissions for them at the very least. They only hardcoded those rules which may case system hangs or crashes if changed. They will review the whole set of the current settings to allow as much editing as possible for these processes.
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Old October 30th, 2006, 12:04 PM
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System Safety Monitor 2.2.0.594 was released.

What's new:
* added "WinEvents Hooks" list to the module "Hooks";
* added Drag & Drop for application rules;
* several language updates.

Bugs fixed:
* fixed several memory leaks;
* version info in the tray icon tooltip;
* App settings not restored when importing config;
* the child/parent settings for a group are lost after restarting SSM.

Again, the word BETA was missing from the version number..
 

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