New version FirstDefense-ISR Professional v1.10.173

[King FN Kong]

anybody using this version? feedback? i removed firstdefense first, then installed this one. it took my previous installation's registration.

updated 10/01/06

what versions are most of you using??

[ErikAlbert]

I use :
Product: FirstDefense-ISR 2000/XP Professional
Version: 1.05 Build 166

I visited the Raxco website and there is no new version, otherwise it would be downloadable in my personal account.
You must be talking about the Leapfrog version, which is normally for resellers only and it has no support.

[sukarof]

I use the Leapfrog version 1.10 build 172. I cant find any info on what has changed though... probably a minor bug fix? the 172 build is running very stable on my system so I´ll wait until more info emerge.

[King FN Kong]

yeah its from leapfrogy. ive been testing today. no errors so far. im tryin to so how compressed snapshots performance is.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by King FN Kong

yeah its from leapfrogy. ive been testing today. no errors so far. im tryin to so how compressed snapshots performance is.

Yes compression will be one of the new features. Unfortunately that will be all, while our wish-list is put aside.
What is bothering me daily in FDISR :
- The freezing feature, only ONE frozen snapshot is possible
- The schedules are only time-related and the password should be optional
- The copy/update processing screen should be ONE screen instead of two.

[TonyW]

Originally Posted by sukarof

I use the Leapfrog version 1.10 build 172. I cant find any info on what has changed though... probably a minor bug fix?

The fixes appear to be:

* Fixed problem where the Tab and Ctrl keys did not work in the Cmd Tool dialog until you clicked a control in the dialog.
* Fixed copy problem where certain files would produce a mismatch in the verify pass even though they were copied correctly.
* Fixed copy problem, where if a folder differed by only its name, it is did not get renamed.
* Fixed copy problem where the attributes of the target file were unnecessarily updated.
* Fixed problem copying encrypted files in Windows 2000.
* Fixed problem where the copy sound would not play when the command finished.
* Fixed problem where if the user clicked a button or the checkbox on the Command dialog and then pressed Enter, the dialog would exit.
* Fixed problem that would cause a set shortname error if the security on the target made it inaccessible.
* Fixed problem where ISRCmd.exe could crash after a copy if the source and destination snapshot names were near the maximum length.
* SupportInfo.txt is now created on the User's Desktop and the MFT info has been removed since it was of limited use.
* Excluded files starting with "*\" will now match files in the root as well as sub-folders. For example, "*\Temp" will match ALL files and folders named "Temp"

v.172 only had two fixes last time I checked their site. I think they forgot to change v.172 to .173.

[silver0066]

Will the updated Leapfrog version work with Raxco serial numbers. Leapfrog updated the software over 3 months ago, and still no update from Raxco.

What are they waiting for?

[sukarof]

Originally Posted by silver0066

Will the updated Leapfrog version work with Raxco serial numbers. Leapfrog updated the software over 3 months ago, and still no update from Raxco.

What are they waiting for?

Thanks TonyW. No need to update as far as I can see, none of the fixes applies to me

Will the updated Leapfrog version work with Raxco serial numbers. Leapfrog updated the software over 3 months ago, and still no update from Raxco.

What are they waiting for?

I have a Raxco License that I bought more than a year ago and it works fine with the Leapfrog version. But remember that Raxco wont give you any support with the leapfrog version and bla bla and yadi yaa
I have heard something here about raxco are still testing it
There are another vendor that also sells FirstdefenseISR and they have updated (at least to .172 after a couple of weeks when Leapfrog made it public this summer.
The main difference to the Raxco version is: Compression of snapshots (about 30%) and support for internationalized versions of Windows + the updates for .173. If you don't need that (and depend on support) and the raxco version you have runs fine there is no need to upgrade.

[silver0066]

Originally Posted by sukarof

The main difference to the Raxco version is: Compression of snapshots (about 30%) and support for internationalized versions of Windows + the updates for .173. If you don't need that (and depend on support) and the raxco version you have runs fine there is no need to upgrade.

I like the idea of compressing the snapshots to speed up my Acronis imaging process. Does the copy/update snapshot feature of FD-ISR take noticeably longer because of the compression feature?

Many thanks

[ErikAlbert]

I don't see any new functions or improved functions, except compression.
Compression is good for those who need it, but I don't have a space problem.
For me, it's certainly not a sensational new version.

[sukarof]

Originally Posted by silver0066

I like the idea of compressing the snapshots to speed up my Acronis imaging process. Does the copy/update snapshot feature of FD-ISR take noticeably longer because of the compression feature?

Many thanks

No I don't see any noticeable difference in speed when creating/updating nor when booting into and running a compressed snapshot.

[silver0066]

Originally Posted by sukarof

No I don't see any noticeable difference in speed when creating/updating nor when booting into and running a compressed snapshot.

Thanks sukarof,

I think I will try the Leapfrog edition with Raxco license. I have 2 XP snapshots and 2 Vista snapshots on my system drive. Maybe it will speed up my backups with Acronis Workstation.

[aigle]

I think they are not too interested to improve its features. I wish they get a good cometitor. Even the GUI needs work to make it user friendly.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by aigle

I think they are not too interested to improve its features. I wish they get a good cometitor. Even the GUI needs work to make it user friendly.

If they don't improve its features and I find one day an equal software with more features, I will ditch FDISR without any hesitation.
RollbackRx/EazFix isn't a replacement for FDISR, they are both too different.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by Acadia

Good grief, you guys are too spoiled, or something. Some folks will always hunt for something to cry about!

Acadia

Not too spoiled, just improving some existing features in the benefit of the software and to protect it against competing softwares, although the competition isn't big, but that can change any moment.

[King FN Kong]

i agree whit acadia on the good grief. fdisr just works. i duno what else to ask. interface is already sweet and easy to use. wish they dont update and make it bloated.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by Acadia

"If they don't improve its features ... "

That statement does not help to improve anything, but rather sounds rather silly.

Acadia

Well I'm not good in expressing myself in a foreign language.
I know exactly what I 'm talking about and there are some features that can be improved and I'm not talking about minor issues or gadgets or colors.
Maybe you don't see these improvements or you don't use these features, but that doesn't mean that these features don't need to be improved.

[ErikAlbert]

I don't follow your reasoning at all, but I'm not going to discuss any further.

[aigle]

@ Acadia
@ King

I don,t agree with u at all. A good software does not mean that I will never criticise on it. FDISR is good but it needs more improvement sure. I don,t like to be a just a fan boy of any software.
Let me just reveiew the user friendliness of GUI. When I right click a snaposhot and select copy/ update, it gives me the option to select a snapshot which I want to copy/ update, now this makes no sense to me. when I have right clicked a selected snapshot and say copy, that means I want to copy this specific snapshot, no point of giving me all the list of snapshots again to select. It,s a smmall thing but i find it rather irritating.
Secondly, The snapshot window is made in such a way that it,s hard to see all the columns unless u make the window full screen that is again indicative of a poor GUI.
Also copy uypdate options should be separate to prevent beginners from any confusion.
If any one has used EAZ-FIX, he will know how user friendly is the GUI there.
Pls note that I am not comparing EAZ-FIX with FDISR anymore, I am just comparing the GUI user friendliness of two software with similar options. It was so user friendly that hardly I ever need to read the help file.
About the features, I will not comment as i am new to FDISR but Eric is right, adding some useful new features does not make a software bloat. If they are not caring for the wishlist of users at all, they are wrong. I can safely say that the main reason for this is that there is no competitor. A healthy competition is always good.

[King FN Kong]

hi. is there anyone from leapfrog who posts in this section?

[ErikAlbert]

And thirdly, when you have to boot in another snapshot via FDISR, you have to go through too many screens to confirm the boot. What is so dangerous about booting in the wrong snapshot, if you ever accidently choosed the wrong snapshot. Just boot back in the right snapshot and case closed.
All these minor GUI problems are fixed in no time by a programmer.
My list a bit longer, but I will keep that for Raxco.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by Acadia

It is not the criticism but rather the way that it was done, in a demanding manner and suggesting that Raxco simply does not care; there are more mature ways of stating such things.

Acadia

Next time I will BEG on my knees with alot of sliming.
Leapfrog/Raxco should be very pleased with our suggestions and ideas, because we IMPROVED their software for free.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by King FN Kong

hi. is there anyone from leapfrog who posts in this section?

Very irregular, but everyone can read Wilders without posting. I hope they do, especially our wish-list, to improve FDISR.
IMO their priorities are wrong. They first create PerfectDisk 8 with a total new GUI and this is just a defragger, while FDISR is a much more versatile and more important software, that needs improvement. Beats me.

[Peter2150]

Acadia, I am with you on this one. I've always just clicked the camera and selected from snapshot and then two snapshot.

Frankly, I am just delighted that FDISR, does what it was designed to do, and does it so well. Aigle, you may have a point, but the example you chose, leaves totally unimpressed. I totally agree with what Erik said about a couple of the defaults, but thats still trivial compared to what the program has done for me.

[Peter2150]

Originally Posted by ErikAlbert

Very irregular, but everyone can read Wilders without posting. I hope they do, especially our wish-list, to improve FDISR.
IMO their priorities are wrong. They first create PerfectDisk 8 with a total new GUI and this is just a defragger, while FDISR is a much more versatile and more important software, that needs improvement. Beats me.

Actually Erik, I suspect they know exactly what their priorities are. Perfect Disk is probably their bread and butter product. So that's what get's the priority. Frankly I can live with FDISR just the way it is.