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Old October 10th, 2003, 09:35 PM
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Hi

Riding on Agnitum forums I came accross this link:

http://www.kephyr.com/popupkillertest/test/index.html

It's a Pop Up killer test...

If you'd like to take it, please activate JavaScripts and go ahead (of course, it's completely harmless).

How good do you do against it ?

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Old October 10th, 2003, 09:43 PM
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I am currently using Opera 7.21 RC5 build 3216 and passed all tests.....

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Old October 10th, 2003, 09:44 PM
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I'm usually a Opera user, and my specific Pop Up killer is WebWasher.

When I select the deny all popups option, I pass all nine steps in the test.

But when I "refuse all popups except the requested ones", I fail number 9 (mouse-over).

Using Opera 7.21 RC5 alone (F12 "open requested popups only"), I failed steps 3 and 9.

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Old October 10th, 2003, 09:46 PM
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I'm afriad I had to lower my security a little to see the pop-ups. (Hmm, maybe that is a good thing.)
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Old October 10th, 2003, 10:09 PM
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I disabled my pop-up blocker and nothing happened. I did not enable Javascript (I don't do that for sites I've never heard of and know nothing about).
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Old October 10th, 2003, 10:25 PM
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popup manager blocks all the popups
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Old October 10th, 2003, 10:26 PM
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Hi Marti

Your answer makes me wonder... Are there any Active-x or Vbs or other proprietary technologies-based popups ?!

Might be wrong about it but I thought all popups killers were pointless unless JavaScripts were enabled !?...

Sorry if I may sound silly on this matter, but having Opera as main browser and Phoenix 0.5 as second, I'm not exposed to VBS and co. as may be IExplorer users...

Having said that, your security philosophy is a rather good one...

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Old October 10th, 2003, 10:31 PM
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Opera 7.2

1) first time I tried it I had proxo on so I beat all 9 even with Open requested pop-up windows only selected.

2) Tried again after viewing Crockett's results on Opera beta to see if this was a flaw in the beta

result: same as Crockett 3 & 9 dinged me when I used (Open requested pop-up windows only) I think this is a flaw in Opera and should be reported...

on mouse over popup - should not engage as a requested popup IMO

Crockett since you found it, I'll let you do the honors on the bug report


3) if you refuse all popups then Opera kills all 9 with proxo in bypass

good find Crockett!!!
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Old October 10th, 2003, 10:41 PM
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Not sure about the flaw in Opera. Already got the same results with 7.20, and furthermore, I don't know how the 3 and 9 steps of the test proceed...

Gonna wait a while and see how other users are doing...

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Old October 10th, 2003, 10:56 PM
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I use Crazy Browser and passed all 9
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Old October 10th, 2003, 11:19 PM
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quoting: puff-m-d link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92857 date=1065836580]
I am currently using Opera 7.21 RC5 build 3216 and passed all tests.....

Regards,
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Kent,

what did you have Opera pop-up set to?

try it with "Open requested pop-up windows only" and see if you don't get the same result as C & P.

bypass proxo if u use it.

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Old October 10th, 2003, 11:26 PM
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quoting: peakaboo link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92868 date=1065839468]
Opera 7.2

1) first time I tried it I had proxo on so I beat all 9 even with Open requested pop-up windows only selected.

2) Tried again after viewing Crockett's results on Opera beta to see if this was a flaw in the beta

result: same as Crockett 3 & 9 dinged me when I used (Open requested pop-up windows only) I think this is a flaw in Opera and should be reported...

on mouse over popup - should not engage as a requested popup IMO

Crockett since you found it, I'll let you do the honors on the bug report


3) if you refuse all popups then Opera kills all 9 with proxo in bypass

good find Crockett!!!

Hi Peakaboo

Followed your advice and just sent a mail to press-support@opera.com to ask them and check it out...

We'll see what pops ehh..., what comes up !

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Old October 10th, 2003, 11:28 PM
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Crockett, reported to Opera Crew
will see what happen and will let you know...
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Old October 11th, 2003, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
quoting: peakaboo link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92880 date=1065842348]
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quoting: puff-m-d link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92857 date=1065836580]
I am currently using Opera 7.21 RC5 build 3216 and passed all tests.....

Regards,
Kent

Kent,

what did you have Opera pop-up set to?

try it with "Open requested pop-up windows only" and see if you don't get the same result as C & P.

bypass proxo if u use it.



I had it set to "Refuse all"... Re-done the test to "Open requested pop-up windows only" and failed on 3 and 9.......

Regards,
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Old October 11th, 2003, 01:29 AM
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Proxomitron with JD5000's advanced configuration and filter set (modified for my preferences) passed all nine tests. That is, I saw no popups except on #5 when I deliberately allowed them to load (with two mouseclicks).
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Old October 11th, 2003, 06:15 AM
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I now have Panicware Popup Stopper and past all tests......it didn't even let me see the 'Good' Popups??.....is that good or bad?

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Old October 11th, 2003, 06:24 AM
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Passed all 9 tests using Opera 7.21 Build 3215 using either: (a) Refuse pop-up or (b) Open requested pop-up windows only settings.

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Old October 11th, 2003, 10:37 AM
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quoting: Bdiamond link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=15#msg92929 date=1065867883]
Passed all 9 tests using Opera 7.21 Build 3215 using either: (a) Refuse pop-up or (b) Open requested pop-up windows only settings.

Bdiamond

Is the Opera team that fast that they already fixed on-mouse over popups #3 & #9 loooooool

Bdiamond are you running any other software like proxo, privoxy, or guidescope?

Looks like you are running 7.21 RC4 and as you can see below Kent is running 7.21 RC5:


Quote:
quoting: puff-m-d link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92885 date=1065845303]
Quote:
quoting: peakaboo link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92880 date=1065842348]
Quote:
quoting: puff-m-d link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92857 date=1065836580]
I am currently using Opera 7.21 RC5 build 3216 and passed all tests.....

Regards,
Kent

Kent,

what did you have Opera pop-up set to?

try it with "Open requested pop-up windows only" and see if you don't get the same result as C & P.

bypass proxo if u use it.



I had it set to "Refuse all"... Re-done the test to "Open requested pop-up windows only" and failed on 3 and 9.......

Regards,
Kent

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Old October 11th, 2003, 01:11 PM
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Hi

Already got a (kind) answer from the Opera team...

But mystery unsolved as far as I'm concerned.

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Old October 11th, 2003, 04:03 PM
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Google toolbar got 'em all. Proxo got 'em, too.

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I don't think onmouse over popups should be blocked. Anything in response to user's action should not be blocked.
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I'm afriad I had to lower my security a little to see the pop-ups. (Hmm, maybe that is a good thing.)

What's so scary about popups?
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Old October 12th, 2003, 06:32 AM
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Hi Marti

Your answer makes me wonder... Are there any Active-x or Vbs or other proprietary technologies-based popups ?!

Rgds, Crockett

VB popups are rare, I've never come across one that is "in the wild" to borrow a virus term but here's one

http://www.tooto.com/dialogtest.htm

But as you pointed out only IE users need to worry.

As for activex "popups" I'm sure it's possible, but it seems overkill to use activex just to launch a popup.
Anyway If someone has tight security on js, i doubt they would leave activex open

CSS popups anyone?
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Old October 12th, 2003, 06:36 AM
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quoting: puff-m-d link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92885 date=1065845303]
Quote:
quoting: peakaboo link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92880 date=1065842348]
Quote:
quoting: puff-m-d link=board=19;threadid=14791;start=0#msg92857 date=1065836580]
I am currently using Opera 7.21 RC5 build 3216 and passed all tests.....

Regards,
Kent

Kent,

what did you have Opera pop-up set to?

try it with "Open requested pop-up windows only" and see if you don't get the same result as C & P.

bypass proxo if u use it.



I had it set to "Refuse all"... Re-done the test to "Open requested pop-up windows only" and failed on 3 and 9.......

Regards,
Kent

Indeed, Opera implements a nice compromise between the 2 different anti popup philisophies. Arguable anything that is a result of DIRECT (onload etc are not direct) user interaction (normally a click but it can be anything)
should be seen as a sign that you want something to happen, so this is a very good test to see if popups are requested are not

Still most users don't expect onmouse overs to trigger popups, so some popup blockers block that too.
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Old October 12th, 2003, 06:43 AM
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More popup tests if you like this kind of thing


http://www.popuptest.com/popuphome.html

http://www.webknacks.com/aptest.htm

http://www.popup-killer-review.com/index.htm

http://www.popup-purger.com/test2.html
 

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