Rollback Rx Pro and Drive Snapshot : some good news ?

[MerleOne]

Hi all,

I have been using Rollback RX from some days now, protecting my XP partition and leaving other partitions working normally. I realized that Acronis True Image V8 now refuses to backup the XP partition but works fine with other.

Following another thread from this forum, I have found out an interesting alternative, Drive Snapshot (http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/), that seems to be able to image the current version of a Rollback RX protected partition.

The software that comes with Rollback RX, HDSClone, definitely refuses to work with my setup.

I was wondering whether some other users have the same analysis.

.merle1.

[starfish_001]

Originally Posted by MerleOne

Hi all,

I have been using Rollback RX from some days now, protecting my XP partition and leaving other partitions working normally. I realized that Acronis True Image V8 now refuses to backup the XP partition but works fine with other.
.merle1.

Just set off TI8 seems to be working so far?

[Peter2150]

Note I only have one partition on my C: drive, but I've successfully imaged the drive(whole drive, not files and folders) with both the latest version of Acronis True Image and Terabyte Image for Windows.
I also have Drive Snapshot, but gave up on it a long time ago as it's recovery Disk is just to complex compared to others.

Pete

[starfish_001]

I have 4 partition - c=windows D= data E= MCE 2005 F= data

True image managed to complete C but failed on E. just tried the 2 os partitions

Will investigate this a bit more as I archive to a network drive

[MerleOne]

With TI8, under Windows, it just starts with high CPU usage but progress remains to 0%, only with Rollback protected partition. I have not tested with TI9, which I don't own.

When you have TI8 or TI9 working, have you checked if the saved image is the current state of the disk or the baseline. It should be the baseline according to Rollback support, but I observe that with Drive Snapshot, it is the current state of the disk !

.merle1.

[starfish_001]

Originally Posted by Peter2150

Note I only have one partition on my C: drive, but I've successfully imaged the drive(whole drive, not files and folders) with both the latest version of Acronis True Image and Terabyte Image for Windows.
I also have Drive Snapshot, but gave up on it a long time ago as it's recovery Disk is just to complex compared to others.

Pete

What version and build of TI are you using ?

[MerleOne]

I am using V8.0 latest build (937).

.merle1.

Originally Posted by starfish_001

What version and build of TI are you using ?

[starfish_001]

I was using v 8 build 774 just upgraded to 937. Will give it another spin after the reboot

I would skip TI version 9 wait for version 9.1


HDSClone will not work with my setup - I have no FAT partition to store the backup

[Peter2150]

I am using TI Version 9 Build 2337

According to what Rollback support told me on the phone when you image you will get an image of the disk in the state of the snapshot you are in, and when you restore that image it won't really have Rollback in it. I always image from the current snapshot I am working in, and I always image the whole disk.

Pete

[MerleOne]

OK, thanks. That would explain drive snapshot result. Now I just have to make ATI work again (probably upgrade to version 9, when it will be more stable - according to what I read).

.merle1.

Originally Posted by Peter2150

I am using TI Version 9 Build 2337

According to what Rollback support told me on the phone when you image you will get an image of the disk in the state of the snapshot you are in, and when you restore that image it won't really have Rollback in it. I always image from the current snapshot I am working in, and I always image the whole disk.

Pete

[starfish_001]

Originally Posted by Peter2150

I am using TI Version 9 Build 2337

According to what Rollback support told me on the phone when you image you will get an image of the disk in the state of the snapshot you are in, and when you restore that image it won't really have Rollback in it. I always image from the current snapshot I am working in, and I always image the whole disk.
Pete

Looks like version 8 has a problem with Rollback. I guess TI should work from the boot disk. Not ideal for me as I image to NAS.

I have raised a support request with RB-RX see what happens.

I have Ghost and Paragon Drive Backup somewhere might try them always liked TI.

[Peter2150]

Originally Posted by starfish_001

Looks like version 8 has a problem with Rollback. I guess TI should work from the boot disk. Not ideal for me as I image to NAS.

I have raised a support request with RB-RX see what happens.

I have Ghost and Paragon Drive Backup somewhere might try them always liked TI.

why not try TI 9

[Atomas31]

You could also try the new version (from today) of Rollback Rx at :
http://www.horizondatasys.com/downlo...?product_id=18

Best regards,
Atomas31

[starfish_001]

Originally Posted by Atomas31

You could also try the new version (from today) of Rollback Rx at :
http://www.horizondatasys.com/downlo...?product_id=18

Best regards,
Atomas31

THanks that looks worth while

From relase notes:

Other important notes on the new build.
1. Fixed the Win98 and Tweak UI issue reported by some clients.
2. Fixed the registration ID changes on STAT drives issue. (So we won't need to reset the registration records when users reinstall Rollback)
3. Fixed a update baseline/uninstall to current snapshot issue. If the drive does not have enough contagious space to Rollback to create the new baseline table index, the operation might fail.
4. Fixed a possible NT blue screen issue reported by some users that when using backup software - The system sometimes has a blue screen. Updated the Kernel driver for fault tolerance.
5. Optimized shdserv for better resource consumption.
6. Added a setup detects new version feature.
7. Enabled "Ghost" from subsystems. To Ghost a snapshot from the subsystem users can:
a). Press HOME key to enter subsystem.
b). select Advanced options/Program settings and type "ghost=1".
c). select Advanced options/Boot from floppy to go to DOS. d). run Ghost from the DOS to create a backup image for the current snapshot.
8. And some other minor issues, bugs reported by customers.

[starfish_001]

Originally Posted by Peter2150

why not try TI 9

Um version 9 does not give me anything I need at the moment. Also after reading these forums TI9 seems to be rather trouble some

Version 9 corporate on the otherhand sound very very interesting - restore to different hardware so I'd rathers stick with TI 8 for now or use something else that I already own.

[starfish_001]

Just chatted with RB tech support

If you use the file backup feature of Acronis, their shouldn't be any problems with RollBack Rx. Acronis file backup shouldn't modify the MBRs unless it does a complete drive image backup. The only way that Acronis could conflict with RollBack is if it changes the MBR.

If you upgrade to new version TI* should work

7. Enabled "Ghost" from subsystems. To Ghost a snapshot from the subsystem users can:
a). Press HOME key to enter subsystem.
b). select Advanced options/Program settings and type "ghost=1".
c). select Advanced options/Boot from floppy to go to DOS. d). run Ghost from the DOS to create a backup image for the current snapshot.

[Peter2150]

Anyone know why the download file is an htm file?

Pete

[beetlejuice69]

Pete when I downloaded it it was a exe file.

[Atomas31]

Originally Posted by Peter2150

Anyone know why the download file is an htm file?

Pete

Hi Pete,

I have just check and the file I download was an .exe file...

Best regards,
Atomas31

[MerleOne]

Maybe a browser issue : with Opera 8.52 I also get an html file, I just had to rename it.

.merle1.

Originally Posted by Atomas31

Hi Pete,

I have just check and the file I download was an .exe file...

Best regards,
Atomas31

[MerleOne]

About this new release, I read that one can install it on top of the previous version, but what is the recommended way : uninstall before ? Update baseline before ? Or just install on top of previous version ?

Thanks for any hint !

.merle1.

Originally Posted by Atomas31

You could also try the new version (from today) of Rollback Rx at :
http://www.horizondatasys.com/downlo...?product_id=18

Best regards,
Atomas31

[beetlejuice69]

I installed it right over the top no problems. It creates a new baseline when you reboot. All is updated at that time.

[Peter2150]

Thanks guys. I also am using Opera.

Pete

[Blackcat]

Originally Posted by MerleOne

About this new release, I read that one can install it on top of the previous version, but what is the recommended way : uninstall before ? Update baseline before ? Or just install on top of previous version ?

Thanks for any hint !

.merle1.

The current version can be installed on top of the present version - however, their support ( Lyle ) always recommends uninstalling the current version before installing the new one.

Take a look here.

[diginsight]

Originally Posted by starfish_001

THanks that looks worth while

7. Enabled "Ghost" from subsystems. To Ghost a snapshot from the subsystem users can:
a). Press HOME key to enter subsystem.
b). select Advanced options/Program settings and type "ghost=1".
c). select Advanced options/Boot from floppy to go to DOS. d). run Ghost from the DOS to create a backup image for the current snapshot.

Which to me proves their support is not adequate. I spend hours and hours with them on this issue and they don't even bother keeping in touch that it's solved in an update. This is the second time I'm trying to resolve issues with their support, never hear again when they can't fix it and find the solution posted on their website.

Anyway I was half way creating a bootdisk that would support USB devices with NTFS write access to use HDC Clone until I decided enough was enough.

Thanks for pointing out the Ghost update. Whenever I find some spare time I'll try if it still manages to crash all the different Ghost builds it threw at it previously. If it works I can finally write disaster recovery images to DVD and that's what it all was about.