Best AV/ Internet Security Suite

[Peter2150]

Originally Posted by Crappopotamus

not in 6? Something sure scattered them all over every file on my C drive then.. I've not installed any Kaspersky except for the 6 beta. hmmph.

It was any KAV/KIS 6.0 beta. I've run both of these with First Defense and trust me if they were there I'd have known.

One thing that might make them is if you use Icon's in explorer. I know it does leave something. Someone jump in correct if I am wrong.

[Crappopotamus]

Originally Posted by Peter2150

It was any KAV/KIS 6.0 beta. I've run both of these with First Defense and trust me if they were there I'd have known.

One thing that might make them is if you use Icon's in explorer. I know it does leave something. Someone jump in correct if I am wrong.

hmm hmm hmm. even all over my D drive, $KAVICH$ or something almost identical was in the string.

[Peter2150]

Originally Posted by Crappopotamus

hmm hmm hmm. even all over my D drive, $KAVICH$ or something almost identical was in the string.

If you ever had 5.0 they may be left overs. Somewhere on the KAV site(somebody might point you better) there is a KLstreamremover.exe You put that in your C:\ directory and run it from a cmd window. Bye bye ads.

Pete

[maddawgz]

PC-Cillan caused my system to constantly "reboot". never in 4yrs have i had that problem i use 2005 suite now and love it..... however im interested in the KAV Suite 2006 coming..... when will it be out.? thanks MD

btw Fsecure suite is like panda Python..lol

[JRCATES]

Originally Posted by maddawgz

PC-Cillan caused my system to constantly "reboot". never in 4yrs have i had that problem i use 2005 suite now and love it.....

I know, it was the damnest thing I'd ever seen. The guys at the local repair shop were just as baffled as I was when I called them and told them what was causing the problem afterward. I even contacted Trend Micro's customer service, and they were very helpful in trying to resolve the issue. I submitted everything that they asked for via email after our phone conversation, but I never received a definitive reply what was causing it. I had downloaded the '05 ISS version from a CD purchased at a retailer, not from an on-line download, so there may have been some corrupt file or something on the CD version that I had....but whatever it was, it was freaky, that's for sure.

I'm not claiming that this should be expected behaviour either....because the reason I tried it was because I had heard good things about it. I'm sure it works well for others, I was just relaying the personal experience that I had.....

[Firecat]

BullGuard Internet Security (http://www.bullguard.com) is also a very good security suite. Its AV uses a full-featured BitDefender engine (HIVE also included) and the firewall is powered by Sygate Pro. AntiSpam seems to be done in-house however. You also get online backup from 1000MB to 3000MB.

And best of all, one license of BullGuard covers 3 computers.

[Don Pelotas]

Originally Posted by Crappopotamus

hmm hmm hmm. even all over my D drive, $KAVICH$ or something almost identical was in the string.

Then you have had 5.0 installed with default settings, 6.0 does not use ADS, it uses a central database, you can use Adsspy to remove them.

[metallicakid15]

Originally Posted by Firecat

BullGuard Internet Security (http://www.bullguard.com) is also a very good security suite. Its AV uses a full-featured BitDefender engine (HIVE also included) and the firewall is powered by Sygate Pro. AntiSpam seems to be done in-house however. You also get online backup from 1000MB to 3000MB.

And best of all, one license of BullGuard covers 3 computers.

bullguard is a question since it has some connection with kazza = spyware

[Osaban]

Originally Posted by Don Pelotas

Then you have had 5.0 installed with default settings, 6.0 does not use ADS, it uses a central database, you can use Adsspy to remove them.

Hi,

I ran out of curiosity the Merijn - ADSSpy, as I used to have a version of KAV 5.0. It found 16 entries with KAVICH and when I tried to remove them the program replied it couldn't as they might be locked by another program.

What should I do? Just leave them or try to unlocked them? Thanks

[Don Pelotas]

Originally Posted by Osaban

Hi,

I ran out of curiosity the Merijn - ADSSpy, as I used to have a version of KAV 5.0. It found 16 entries with KAVICH and when I tried to remove them the program replied it couldn't as they might be locked by another program.

What should I do? Just leave them or try to unlocked them? Thanks

Yes, i remember you. I would just leave them because of the small number of them, when Kav is not active they are just non-active files like any other. You use Nod correct?, it is also capable of scanning ADS as far as i remember.

[Brian N]

Originally Posted by Don Pelotas

You use Nod correct?, it is also capable of scanning ADS as far as i remember.

Correct

[Mele20]

I doubt you just have 16 Kavich files. That is just all ADSSPy found. It is not very good for finding these. You should run the KAV cleaner. But if you have an nVidia card then beware unless Kaspersky fixed the problem. Their cleaner ate my nVidia driver.

As for which Suite is the best, you should try KAV and Bit Defender. KIS 2006 beta slowed my very powerful computer to a crawl. My internet speed was cut to ONE THIRD what is normal. Bit Defender has no effect on my computer or my internet speed. So, that is the one I went with. I would have gone with KIS but it doesn't work well on my computer and with my ISP. It is crazy to spend money on a fast internet connection only to have KIS take it away from you. But some don't mind and some are not nearly as badly affected as I was. So, you need to test them to decide which you want.

[Osaban]

Originally Posted by Don Pelotas

Yes, i remember you. I would just leave them because of the small number of them, when Kav is not active they are just non-active files like any other. You use Nod correct?, it is also capable of scanning ADS as far as i remember.

Hi Don,

I suspected you have a formidable memory! I take your word for it and as I said I can't complain about anything so I won't worry about it.

Mele20,

thank you for your input but cleaners, like you said they may do more damage than good, so in my situation I'll give it a miss.

[bigc73542]

started useing F-Secure Internet Security 2006 a few days ago and was really surprised at how light it actually runs. The scan speed on an on demand scan is not the fastest I have used but still acceptable. It does use four different scan engines, (see screen shot) so far it seems to be an improvement over earlier versions as to resource use. After another week or so I will have a better idea of how well it behaves. But so far so good.

[tobacco]

bigc

Just curious about F-secure or shopping for a new AV?.Weren't you using Norton?.

[bigc73542]

I usually install and test about ten av's a month, this time it is F-Secure IS 2006

[Ga1tar]

Let us know whether this version is kinder on resources unlike previous efforts, as the last time i used it, after a few updates i had to remove it as it was so greedy.

[bigc73542]

Originally Posted by Ga1tar

Let us know whether this version is kinder on resources unlike previous efforts, as the last time i used it, after a few updates i had to remove it as it was so greedy.

Will do, so far it is not useing much in the way of resources. But I will post any changes. The only thing I don't like about it is slow boot up but I can live with it so far.

[Ga1tar]

That was an issue I had at the time so no improvement there it seems, one other tip springs to mind, which is, try not too miss an update as it throws a cosmic fit. At least on my machine it did reducing everything to a snails pace until it was ready, worse than downloading a 285mb update using dial-up.

[Baldrick]

Hi there

I find it hard to understand why no one is recommending Zone Alarm Security Suite. Whilst it has had some problems early on the current incarnation is stable, or certainly as stable as any other of the key players producing complex suites of this nature. I have been running it for some 3 months now with absolutely no issues what so ever (having droppped NIS 2006 because of all the issues introduced by an update and not being resolved).

I would therefore suggest that you try the 14 day trial and see how it goes. In terms of the previous comment about the upcoming Kaspersky Internet Suite as having "...new technologies that are being implemented in this new suite will blow everything else away" well I have read the new Technologies .PDF available on the Kaspersky IS Beta site and to be honest most of what they present has already been implemented in the current version of Zone Alarm Security Suite. I am not saying that ZASS is better....there are many suites out there and some work better than others for some people....but worth a look especially as yo can buy it cheap from Amazon and the yearly subscription (after the first year has run out) is amongst the lowest.

Anyway, this is my opinion....for what it is worth.

Good luck in your quest. Remember, try before you buy!



Baldrick

[The Hammer]

Originally Posted by Baldrick

Hi there

I find it hard to understand why no one is recommending Zone Alarm Security Suite. Whilst it has had some problems early on the current incarnation is stable, or certainly as stable as any other of the key players producing complex suites of this nature. I have been running it for some 3 months now with absolutely no issues what so ever (having droppped NIS 2006 because of all the issues introduced by an update and not being resolved).

I would therefore suggest that you try the 14 day trial and see how it goes. In terms of the previous comment about the upcoming Kaspersky Internet Suite as having "...new technologies that are being implemented in this new suite will blow everything else away" well I have read the new Technologies .PDF available on the Kaspersky IS Beta site and to be honest most of what they present has already been implemented in the current version of Zone Alarm Security Suite. I am not saying that ZASS is better....there are many suites out there and some work better than others for some people....but worth a look especially as yo can buy it cheap from Amazon and the yearly subscription (after the first year has run out) is amongst the lowest.

Anyway, this is my opinion....for what it is worth.

Good luck in your quest. Remember, try before you buy!



Baldrick

The two most important components of a suite are the AV and the firewall. Most people probably wish that the ZoneAlarm suites AV (Computer Associates) was stronger or more highly regarded and thats why they're looking elsewhere.

[Baldrick]

Hi Hammer

I think that most people may be mis-informed about the CA-sourced antivirus element of ZASS....I certainly was. If you check out the Virus Bulletin site you will find that they have consistently award the CA antivirus program their VB100% award showing that it is on a par with the other 'big hitters'. Using the version within ZASS you usually get daily signature updates and the scanning speed is pretty good.

As I said before I was ignorant of how good this component is....but now I am not. Also, if you check some of the review, ie, PCMagazine, etc., you will also find them saying that the antivirus componenet is good/certainly up with the NAVs & McAfees of this world.

Anyway, as I said.....try it an see, then make your choice.

Regards



Balderick

[tobacco]

From what i've heard, zonealarm does well with viruses but is getting killed by trojans.And i tried the pro firewall for a few days and found it buggy.Had to keep re-enabling a few things every time i connected to the web.Plus zonealarm denied for 2 months that its firewall was secretly phoning home.They finally said it had to be a "bug".

[Baldrick]

Did not want to start a polemic on this point. ZASS works great for me (no re-enabling require, rock steady, light on resource, etc.) and that is why I would recommend it to the originator of this thread.....at least as a trial.

In terms of the "phone home" issue I think that it is a non existant issue as Zone Alram clearly advise that their Smart Defense Advisor function does this to allow ZASS users to benefit from the user community's collective wisdom.

The problem with these sorts of threads is that they go off topic so quickly with 'championing' taking the place of fact.

There are lots of good products out there and that is why I would suggest a trial of those that appear to match the basic requirements of the person looking to purchase.

[Kerodo]

The ZA Suite is good, and I'd also suggest the BitDefender Suite as well. ZA having the stronger firewall and BD having the stronger AV. Both are good though. These 'suites' do use a hefty amount of ram typically, but that's the price you pay for all the coverage.