Other programs like Returnil?

[LUSHER]

Comodo has announced a forthcoming release of a returnil like product in a matter of weeks...

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by LUSHER

Comodo has announced a forthcoming release of a returnil like product in a matter of weeks...

Well, I wasn't exactly waiting for the n'th Returnil, we have already so many of them : BaselineShield, DeepFreeze, PowerShadow, Returnil, ShadowDefender, ...
All these simple boot-to-restore solutions are too limited in possibilities.

[LUSHER]

Originally Posted by ErikAlbert

Well, I wasn't exactly waiting for the n'th Returnil, we have already so many of them : BaselineShield, DeepFreeze, PowerShadow, Returnil, ShadowDefender, ...
All these simple boot-to-restore solutions are too limited in possibilities.

Well it is retunril like, but typically comodo tends to throw the kitchen-sink at products so you get stuff like Defense+ which has all the hips features one can think of...

Given this track-record, this product might actually be more like your beloved FDISR product.... Surely you will be excited then....

[QQ2595]

Originally Posted by LUSHER

Comodo has announced a forthcoming release of a returnil like product in a matter of weeks...

interesting news, as I know, Returnil already released a foolish HIPS version last month in china.

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=328975781

[QQ2595]

Originally Posted by ErikAlbert

RobotDog is an executable and should have been terminated by Faronics Anti-Executable as an unauthorized executable or any other software with the same results.
You cannot trust ISR, it's online all the time and ISR needs protection of security softwares.
That was China's mistake : too much faith in ISR.

I have the combination of ShadowProtect, FDISR and Anti-Executable, no robotdog is going to get me.

why Anti-execute? XP limited account also has good effect, I think.

I am waiting for the MJ1011 to release a new virus. she said it can bypass all the ShadowXXXX/HIPS/AV.

http://hi.baidu.com/mj0011/blog/item...5b8127b3b.html

I will test it with anti-execute when I got it.

[EASTER]

Originally Posted by QQ2595

why Anti-execute? XP limited account also has good effect, I think.

I am waiting for the MJ1011 to release a new virus. she said it can bypass all the ShadowXXXX/HIPS/AV.

http://hi.baidu.com/mj0011/blog/item...5b8127b3b.html

I will test it with anti-execute when I got it.

Yeah so am i.

If it's anything like that MFC app in the so-called Test Your Hips topic that generated nothing but a BSOD then her next one should really be funny.

I'm sure experimentation for those like that strokes their ego but really looks like to me all those new methods to cut down security apps and such is about run it's course for XP, but then they have to do something with their time right?

What i'm saying, if a user uses the layered approach as most Wilder's Members do then what one doesn't stop something new & unknown, surely another will. Theres simply too many numbers now in the security realm then used to be and they have made up incredible ground on malware by taking a page straight from the malware makers themselves and being creative & subtle.

The high quality latest innovations bear witness to that fact.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by QQ2595

why Anti-execute? XP limited account also has good effect, I think.

I am waiting for the MJ1011 to release a new virus. she said it can bypass all the ShadowXXXX/HIPS/AV.

http://hi.baidu.com/mj0011/blog/item...5b8127b3b.html

I will test it with anti-execute when I got it.

Who the hell is MJ1011 ? A good malware-writer ?
Well I will tell you this : the good guys don't scare the good guys, that is the job of the bad guys.

Has MJ1011 nothing else to do, than breaking security softwares ?
Why doesn't she write a security software herself, that can't even broken by herself ? Too difficult for her ?

[Coldmoon]

Originally Posted by QQ2595

interesting news, as I know, Returnil already released a foolish HIPS version last month in china.

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=328975781

Hello QQ2595,
What you are referring to should not be considered a true HIPS implementation. It is simply an additional tool should it be needed that can offer added control, nothing more. Those who currently have mature HIPS implementations or strategies would not have need for it and we do not suggest otherwise.

The more important feature in the new series is the File Protection...

Mike

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by ErikAlbert

Who the hell is MJ1011 ? A good malware-writer ?

Someone with a real high opinion of members here at Wilders.

http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_...TID=14328&PN=4

[EASTER]

Let's see, other programs like Returnil.

Returnil is shown a pretty decent leg up on the other virtual apps of it's kind so i'm not sure what we could compare it to that hasn't already been mentioned like Deep Freeze, PowerShadow, etc.

They all have their own respective strengths and limitations however those limits have been reduced to only a few now but some deem very important to them.

Returnil for me is ridiculously simple and easy to use while effecting a very SOLID security measure for the very novice all the way to the professional levels. Personally it boggles my mind how well this is been made to work, and works very well without issue. I like the Virtual Partition & Session Manager as my two favorite features.

I also absolutely admired Power Shadow and still do but since Returnil seen myself slowly but determined migrating only to it.

[ErikAlbert]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Someone with a real high opinion of members here at Wilders.

http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_...TID=14328&PN=4

Oh, I thought it was a woman with a real high I.Q., she surely has a real dirty mouth.
At the BBC they would say : this program contains strong language.

[QQ2595]

Originally Posted by Coldmoon

Hello QQ2595,
What you are referring to should not be considered a true HIPS implementation. It is simply an additional tool should it be needed that can offer added control, nothing more. Those who currently have mature HIPS implementations or strategies would not have need for it and we do not suggest otherwise.

The more important feature in the new series is the File Protection...

Mike

Hello,

In fact, I was impressed when Returnil first brought turnning on protection on the fly.

but I do not like the idea to bring boring anti-execute HIPS in the new chinese version.

[Beto]

Originally Posted by Scoobs

I've pretty much decided to stick with Returnil for various reasons (it's free, but also works quietly and seemingly very reliably and does what I want), but in case I can save anyone having to ask the same question again...

Having done a bit more reading this thread covers similar programs, and they seem to be:-

• FDISR
• RollbackRx
• Eaz-Fix
• AyRecovery
• Radix Reload
• Roxio BackOnTrack 3 Suite
• DeepFreeze
• Returnil
• ShadowDefender

(List taken shamelessly from post 2 by Erik Albert)

I don't understand, why isn't SBIE on this list too? To me they seem to operate similarly. What am I not understanding? (I am talking from the perspective of "functions").

[HURST]

SBIE is not a boot-to-restore solution