external hard disk 1.5t help

[mantra]

Hi

i bought a WESTERN DIGITAL Elements Desktop 1,5TB

but i have a problem , connected to the pc , turn on the pc and the bios does want to boot
auto-detecting usb mas storage device... no booting

i disconnect the usb cable of the hard disk , in the bios i set up usb legacy OFF
now it boots

but i can not use recovery cd like acronis or paragon because my keyboard logithech is not active

is there a fix?

and i did plug and unplug the hard disk many times when the drive was connected to the power

does/did it damage the hard disk ?


thanks
cheers

[aladdin]

Basically, it is trying to boot from external hard and since it doesn't find the bootmgr on it, the computers stays blinking. Once you disconnect, the computer boots from the bootmgr from your internal hard disk.

You can press F12 on boot. It will give you a menu to boot from. Choose the proper internal drive which has the bootmgr and then boot.

Best regards,

KOR!

[mantra]

Originally Posted by King of Rapture

Basically, it is trying to boot from external hard and since it doesn't find the bootmgr on it, the computers stays blinking. Once you disconnect, the computer boots from the bootmgr from your internal hard disk.

You can press F12 on boot. It will give you a menu to boot from. Choose the proper internal drive which has the bootmgr and then boot.

Best regards,

KOR!

but the bios did freeze , i can only reset it
disabled legacy , it works great

but about plug and unplug the usb cable could damage the drive?

thanks

[aladdin]

Originally Posted by mantra

but the bios did freeze , i can only reset it
disabled legacy , it works great

but about plug and unplug the usb cable could damage the drive?

thanks

You need to turn on the F12 menu in the BIOS. Or simply push the ESC key while booting is starting.

I don't think you damaged the drive yet, but it could.

Best regards,

KOR!

P.S. I have hooked up a regular PS2 keyboard and my Logitech Wave 24 keyboard with MX1000 mouse. This way you can disable the legacy support.

[Raza0007]

Did you first setup the drive by connecting it to your computer when it was running? You need to do that for proper usb drive installation. Once the drive has been successfully installed, partitioned and assigned drive letters from within windows, it should then work fine on reboot.

You do not need to change anything in the bios for a usb external drive, unless you plan to boot from that drive.

I suggest first setup the drive from within windows, then reset your bios to its default setting and then see if you still have this problem.

[mantra]

Originally Posted by Raza0007

Did you first setup the drive by connecting it to your computer when it was running? You need to do that for proper usb drive installation. Once the drive has been successfully installed, partitioned and assigned drive letters from within windows, it should then work fine on reboot.

You do not need to change anything in the bios for a usb external drive, unless you plan to boot from that drive.

I suggest first setup the drive from within windows, then reset your bios to its default setting and then see if you still have this problem.

can you please give a look ?
-http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-53951-wdelements-1tb-external-drive-issues

[mantra]

Originally Posted by King of Rapture

P.S. I have hooked up a regular PS2 keyboard and my Logitech Wave 24 keyboard with MX1000 mouse. This way you can disable the legacy support.

hi
thanks
it's hard to find a ps2 keyboard today

but how can i shut down ?
i mean disconnet from the power

[Raza0007]

Originally Posted by mantra

can you please give a look ?
-http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-53951-wdelements-1tb-external-drive-issues

I read the referenced link but could not figure out if those people were trying to boot from their external drive or they just had the external drive connected at the time of the boot. The only reason the BIOS will hang on a usb connected hard drive is if the primary boot option is set to boot from the usb drive. I recommend you check your boot preferences and set the primary boot drive as the internal drive. In theory, this should solve your problem.

[AlexC]

Maybe the usb where you are trying to plug the external hard disk is in short circuit. Have you tried to plug into another usb connector?

Are you sure that the HD is not like this?

[mantra]

Originally Posted by Raza0007

I read the referenced link but could not figure out if those people were trying to boot from their external drive or they just had the external drive connected at the time of the boot. The only reason the BIOS will hang on a usb connected hard drive is if the primary boot option is set to boot from the usb drive. I recommend you check your boot preferences and set the primary boot drive as the internal drive. In theory, this should solve your problem.

in my bios there is only the setting to use my first hard disk to boot
so i guess it's not the problem

[mantra]

Originally Posted by AlexC

Maybe the usb where you are trying to plug the external hard disk is in short circuit. Have you tried to plug into another usb connector?

Are you sure that the HD is not like this?

thanks
i will try it

[Raza0007]

Originally Posted by mantra

in my bios there is only the setting to use my first hard disk to boot
so i guess it's not the problem

How old is this system? Maybe you can check if there is a BIOS update for your system that will fix this problem.

[mantra]

by the way , why is more slow booting w7 or xp with an extenal hard disk on ?

thanks

[AlexC]

Originally Posted by mantra

by the way , why is more slow booting w7 or xp with an extenal hard disk on ?

thanks

Maybe because the external HD is first than the internal HD in boot device priority. If that's the case you can easily change that setting in the BIOS.

[treehouse786]

@AlexC seeing that pic nearly made me spit my tea out! hahahaha

props for using 2 nuts to hold the dongle in the middle

[AlexC]

Priceless!

[aladdin]

Originally Posted by mantra

by the way , why is more slow booting w7 or xp with an extenal hard disk on ?

thanks

I think I found the answer you are looking for your WESTERN DIGITAL Elements Desktop 1,5TB.

Is the above hard disk formatted with FAT32?

If yes, and you have the USB legacy support "ON" then the system will not boot unless you disconnect the above drive.

If you format the above with NTFS, then your problem will be solved. You will be able to boot without unplugging the hard disk, still with the USB legacy support "ON".

Best regards,

KOR!

[mantra]

Originally Posted by King of Rapture

I think I found the answer you are looking for your WESTERN DIGITAL Elements Desktop 1,5TB.

Is the above hard disk formatted with FAT32?

If yes, and you have the USB legacy support "ON" then the system will not boot unless you disconnect the above drive.

If you format the above with NTFS, then your problem will be solved. You will be able to boot without unplugging the hard disk, still with the USB legacy support "ON".

Best regards,

KOR!

Kor are you sure?
i will try it
but the problem looks common with 4 years old computer , my laptop for example

by the way if i try to click f2 to select the device to boot , there is not the external hard disk
in short the external usb hard disk is not listened in the boot device...

[aladdin]

Originally Posted by mantra

Kor are you sure?
i will try it
but the problem looks common with 4 years old computer , my laptop for example

by the way if i try to click f2 to select the device to boot , there is not the external hard disk
in short the external usb hard disk is not listened in the boot device...

I am almost sure. If you don't much data on it, then you can move the data and format with NTFS. See if works, I think it will.

Best regards,

KOR!


P.S. I have test it on my 5 years old computer, with 16GB Flash Drive. With FAT32 it doesn't boot, but with NTFS it does.

[aladdin]

Hi mantra,

Any joy?

Best regards,

KOR!

[mantra]

hi
seems to work!

but i have 2 partitions
the first ntfs and second fat32
i guess i have to convert the fat32 in ntfs too

did you try to connect an usb hard disk

thanks KOR!

[aladdin]

Originally Posted by mantra

hi
seems to work!

but i have 2 partitions
the first ntfs and second fat32
i guess i have to convert the fat32 in ntfs too

did you try to connect an usb hard disk

thanks KOR!

Hi Mantra,

I have a five years old machine, and I seem to remember when I had an external HD connected to it and formatted with NTFS it worked, but it didn't work if formatted with FAT32. I no longer have an external hard drive connected to this machine.

However, on the same computer, couple of days ago, I tried a 16GB flash drive and again I got the same results with it.

If it works for you, with first partition as NTFS and the second one as FAT32 and you want to leave as is, then don't convert it. However, I am more of a fan of newer technologies and I would convert it.

Best regards,

KOR!

[mantra]

Originally Posted by King of Rapture

Hi Mantra,

I have a five years old machine, and I seem to remember when I had an external HD connected to it and formatted with NTFS it worked, but it didn't work if formatted with FAT32. I no longer have an external hard drive connected to this machine.

However, on the same computer, couple of days ago, I tried a 16GB flash drive and again I got the same results with it.

If it works for you, with first partition as NTFS and the second one as FAT32 and you want to leave as is, then don't convert it. However, I am more of a fan of newer technologies and I would convert it.

Best regards,


KOR!

by the way i found this too

go to Disk Management
delete all partitions

select the disk and Create partition
choose extended

Make a small partition, anywhere between 10 MB - 100,000 MB. I did 1,000 MB

Then make a logical drive out of that partition and format it FAT32.

With the remaining space, create a new partition, choose primary.
Format it NTFS

Last step, on the small FAT32 partition you need to add 2 files, copy io.sys and msdos.sys

should work too!

[Noob]

Originally Posted by AlexC

Are you sure that the HD is not like this?

HAHAHAHA this was epic man.