Is my update working?

rollers · #1 February 5th, 2005, 03:56 AM

Is it me? Or are we not getting regular updates at the moment. I keep checking but it keeps saying it is up to date. The latest radius update I have is dated 18.01.05. I just want to confirm whether or not my tds has gone "tits up" or whether it is correct. If it is correct then we must be due some more updates surely, or a release of TDS4?

Will be greatful of a reply to put my mind at rest

Rollers

#2 February 5th, 2005, 04:08 AM

Hi Rollers,

Try updating your update config. file (update.cfg), It's located in the main TDS folder. Open it with notepad, delete the contents, and copy and paste the text from the quote below, and re-save it.

The contents should look like this:

Quote:

;Radius.TD3 Database Update Sites
;See http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update for latest server list
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/tds/radius.td3
http://www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3
http://www.zeylstra.nl/tds/radius.td3
ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3
http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3
http://fractus.mat.uson.mx/~tds/radius.td3
http://diamondcs.fileburst.com/radius.td3

The latest update is : Update for 04-02-2005: 46163 references - 22101 primaries/11916 traces/12146 variants/other

If it still doesn't work, manually update from - http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update - and let us know the out come in a follow up post, and someone from DCS will respond; if required. (Note: It's the weekend so a response won't come earlier than Monday.)

HTH,

Steve

#3 February 5th, 2005, 04:10 AM

Hi,

I have:
09:47:56 [Init] • Systems Initialised [46163 references - 22101 primaries/11916 traces/12146 variants/other]
09:47:56 [Init] Radius Systems loaded. <Databases updated 04-02-2005>

and that is exactly the same as what Gavin posted here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=64949

---Quotes---
TDS-3 Daily Update - 04-02-2005, 146 added

Update for 04-02-2005: +146 references (+139 primaries)

[46163 references - 22101 primaries/11916 traces/12146 variants/other]

--- end quotes ---

rollers · #4 February 5th, 2005, 09:02 AM

Hi thanks for your replies.

I tried as suggested but to no avail. So in the end I got drastic, uninstalled TDS, deleted the folder and then reinstalled. All is fine now.

Thanks for your time.

Regards Rollers

BiG~BuLL · #5 February 5th, 2005, 02:24 PM

TY dog did everything you said to do and my TDS-3 is updating fine ...Once again bro TY ... PEACE

rollers · #6 February 6th, 2005, 04:36 AM

Ok, I got the download working again ok after reinstalling again, but now the references count is at 44350 and not the 46000 odd as shown on the tds site. Otherwise it is working ok. Anyone got any ideas?

There are no problems only solutions

#7 February 6th, 2005, 04:51 AM

Hi Rollers,

It's happening either because the server you are retrieving the update from hasn't been updated properly -or- your ISP's server has cached an older update file.

To try and get it resolved:

Alter the config. file (update.cfg) in the TDS folder ... by re-arranging the order. ie. Copy 'n paste for example this line - http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3 and paste it above the regular TDS update. Then delete the line you just copied from, including the blank space left behind.

It would then look like this:

Quote:

;Radius.TD3 Database Update Sites
;See http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update for latest server list http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/tds/radius.td3
http://www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3
http://www.zeylstra.nl/tds/radius.td3
ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3
http://fractus.mat.uson.mx/~tds/radius.td3
http://diamondcs.fileburst.com/radius.td3

Once re-saved, try the TDS updater again.

HTH,

Steve

rollers · #8 February 6th, 2005, 06:28 AM

I tried the above but when I saved the update folder and restarted it TDS would not recognise that folder,coming up with an error message. It was saving as a notepad instead of CFG file.
I then did a manual update, and it came up with the correct amount of references...............great I thought. Then when I did an automatic update, it updated again and went back to 44,000 references. Weird. I have done another manual update for now to get back to 46000 odd. Any suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks Rollers

rollers · #9 February 6th, 2005, 06:48 AM

I just downloaded the latest update server list from tds and installed that...........it did exactly the same on auto download, shows the latest database as 6.02 but only 44350 references. As soon as I do a manual download it goes back to the correct 46000 odd. I am lost with it now, awaiting someone to point me in the right direction.

Thanks Rollers

#10 February 6th, 2005, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollers

I tried the above but when I saved the update folder and restarted it TDS would not recognise that folder,coming up with an error message. It was saving as a notepad instead of CFG file.
I then did a manual update, and it came up with the correct amount of references...............great I thought. Then when I did an automatic update, it updated again and went back to 44,000 references. Weird. I have done another manual update for now to get back to 46000 odd. Any suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks Rollers

You have to change the extension back to .cfg from .txt manually.

To do so, after you have updated the contents and saved it as a text file: Right-click the text file and select rename ... change .txt to .cfg ... a confirmation window will popup asking you if you want to change the extension - Choose "Yes".

... the file will now be called update.cfg

HTH,

Steve

rollers · #11 February 6th, 2005, 11:05 AM

Thanks very much, not quite sure what I did differently, but your advice worked. This little problem sent me around the twist today ( I was nearly there anyway)

Thanks very much for your time, all is now working very well.

Rollers

#12 February 6th, 2005, 11:10 AM

That's Good, Congratulations.

I'm glad everything is up and running/updating as it should ... Now, you have the solution should this ever happen to appear again.

... and that's a nice feeling.

Regards;

Steve

halcyon · #13 February 15th, 2005, 07:18 AM

Why don't the developers of TDS-3 consider the occasional "breaking down" of the auto-update feature a bug?

I mean, it's been there for over a year already, I get hit by it at least twice a year and it always requires manual intervention.

Isn't the point of automatic protection that it is automatic?

Sorry if this feels like a silly question, but I think it is warranted, considering the reoccurence of this problem and the nature of the software (security application with automatic updates).

gunnarj · #14 February 18th, 2005, 10:27 AM

Meanwhile, if one downloads the "latest" up-to-date server list (update.cfg) here: http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update

and then uses the internal TDS updating (automatic update) one still gets this:

[46163 references - 22101 primaries/11916 traces/12146 variants/other]

.....

One would think that the least that could be done for this ongoing problem is to keep an updated server list at the TDS website where it tells us we need an updated server list in order to use the Automatic Update Program for TDS successfully.

I think this is a priority request.

Thanks much,

gunnarj

mainer · #15 February 19th, 2005, 01:01 PM

Thank You Dog, I was having the same problem.

halcyon · #16 February 20th, 2005, 04:39 AM

Broken again.

I downloaded latest radius.td3 on 16th of Feb 2005 and haven't gotten a single update since (either automatically or manually from TDS with CTRL+U).

I could only "fix" this by downloading the latest database with my web browser and replacing the old one with the new.

So, do I have to keep downloading the latest radius.td3 with my browser and manually moving it to the TDS-3 directory?

I really think this needs to be fixed.

This is completely inexcusable for a security application with an automatic update feature.

Either fix it or rename it "randomly working semi-update"

Jooske · #17 February 20th, 2005, 04:47 AM

You might like to move another mirror in the update.cfg to the first place?

gunnarj · #18 February 21st, 2005, 02:01 PM

Radius Update working for me again using this update.cfg file:

;Radius.TD3 Database Update Sites
;See http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=update for latest server list
http://www.diamondcs.com.au/tds/radius.td3
http://www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3
http://www.zeylstra.nl/tds/radius.td3
ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3
http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3
http://fractus.mat.uson.mx/~tds/radius.td3
http://diamondcs.fileburst.com/radius.td3

I love it when it works, first time, every time

am now a happy camper again.

gj

ChrisP · #19 February 21st, 2005, 03:41 PM

My update fails most of the time. I have tried suggestions here - which only work for a while and then fail the next day. I have given up even running TDS now. Not worth the trouble.... and no indication as to when TDS4 is out (since V4 should overcome the update bug)

Jooske · #20 February 21st, 2005, 04:05 PM

http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/radius.td3
http://radius.turvamies.com/radius.td3
ftp://ftp.pc-techie.info/tds/radius.td3
http://tds.wiretapped.us/radius.td3
http://fractus.mat.uson.mx/~tds/radius.td3
http://www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3
http://diamondcs.fileburst.com/radius.td3

I change the order at times between #1 and #2 for instance. Really seldom have problems (knock on wood). Guess in some cases ISP's caches are responsible a bit too, maybe worth to have the update not immediately around 12 noon but several hours later.

beethoven · #21 February 21st, 2005, 04:19 PM

With two licensed copies unfortunately I am experiencing the same problems and believe halcyon's decription of "randomly working semi-update" is pretty accurate. I have now updated one pc by manually downloading the latest radius files and then installing them. While this is not complicated, it is time consuming and should not be necessary for an automated update system. As others have mentioned, having to manually change the update server entries by the user is another process that should be avoided. Having gone through all of these processes several times already on two different pc, I think this should be improved quickly.
Comparing how easily other programs update without any user intervention (Nod, Avast), it should not even be necessary having to press an update button to initiate the process in TDS assuming all the other issues do not prevent an update.

Jooske · #22 February 22nd, 2005, 02:30 AM

Long years all went well, it's the recent times more often mirrors are confused, not sure if it is caused by those mirrors or by the ISPs there or user's ISPs, can be anywhere.
If you're manually updating from the site, you could consider to have that same one in position #1 in your update file as logn as it goes.

tamquocchi · #23 February 22nd, 2005, 05:11 AM

Yes, there is issue with hosting tds-db updates, just now. I just get wrong (who knows what it is) the update at the site www.toonbox.de/tds/radius.td3 - Please take a look at the pix (attachment) and post what you got with the update. Anyone got the same like this?
Thanks.

JW Clements · #24 February 22nd, 2005, 06:46 AM

Possibly the biggest problem is that there are no Incremental Updates. As the file grows larger, the bandwidth that has to be provided becomes ridiculous, at least for me with only a dial-up at 26.4kbps. It's been suggested before, but now DCS should drop all other work and implement the IU. The mirror sites and the users would benefit and could at least see something usefully new in TDS, even if it's not the *long* awaited TDS-4.
That's my $2.02.
Jim

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