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Old October 5th, 2012, 02:44 PM
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That may be the case. Or not. - And my decision is not against Webroot or Lastpass. It's a general thing. I wouldn't trust ANY (!) company with my passwords. Maybe a locally saved, outdated, unknown program that isn't used by noone else, but surely not a cloud and then the program that everyone seems to use .. - And btw. if I were CIA, FBI or MI5 etc. I would think about making a password tresor program, just making things sooo much easier.

No way! It's one thing to have cloud AV running on your rig and trusting that, but passwords in a cloud? Never! - Please don't take it personal or anything. - Nothing (!) is completely unbreakable or 100% safe, that is what I believe at least. Putting passwords of millions of people into one hand ... no I couldn't sleep doing that, I am to paranoid as a wilders forum member, I am sure you understand that. - And I never could get why people would trust their documents to all sorts of clouds where you will never know who reads them and why! I would never do such a thing, data belongs to my computer only. EOD.

I completely agree. While Lastpass is cryptographically sound and I would trust it with my passwords, I trust my brain more than any service as that way there is no single point of failure for a someone stealing a master password (despite what Leonardo DiCaprio may think in "Inception"). However, I do use Lastpass for form filling. I always thought, "How often do I really need to type in my name/address/date of birth/etc?" Apparently it is very often... so it saves me quite a bit of time
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Old October 5th, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Win7 32-bit german Ultimate SP1. - No (permanently running) antivirus, only Webroot WRSA. - Emet.

p.s.: not security software maybe .. but .. Secunia PSI 2.0.0.4003 (service is running all the time, GUI was/is not)
Malwarebytes free on demand, not running. - And if I remember correctly same thing happened on computer of a relative (same OS).

Thanks - could you let me know what the value of this registry key is:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System - value name "EnableLUA"

Thanks!
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:10 PM
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I trust my brain more than any service as that way there is no single point of failure for a someone stealing a master password (despite what Leonardo DiCaprio may think in "Inception").

Since I rely on that thing between my ears too let us hope invention of telepathy is really not imminent then! - I heard it once in a movie I think: "Never say never!" - So the word was said, in fact even twice. Quite contradictory the whole advice, I know.

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Thanks - could you let me know what the value of this registry key is:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System - value name "EnableLUA"

Hmmm ... if this is the right path I don't see it there on my system?

Then I did of course search for the string "EnableLUA" and it found 1 entry elsewhere, that picture is also attached.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:19 PM
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Interesting, not having the value would definitely explain the case. I'll take a closer look shortly and let you know when it's fixed!

Thanks
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:30 PM
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I have to say I used once or twice Vit Registry Fix (Pro, trial version) on this system, I guess when I was bored and felt like being adventurous.

If this entry is supposed to be there (even if I never used Limited User Account (?) - just the normal, default Win7 User Account!) it would be interesting why it isn't. Thanks for letting me know, of course I will give you feedback later regarding that fix / my analyzer status in a new version.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 03:54 PM
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I have to say I used once or twice Vit Registry Fix

Avoid things that claim to fix the registry. That was a good thing back in Windows 95 and such when the registry getting too big was Very Bad, but these days most registry fixers which SHOULD fix just one or two very-safe things are of the opinion that "I fixed 3 registry entries for you!" is too wimpy and so poke at a LOT of stuff they normally shouldn't. :/
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Old October 5th, 2012, 04:03 PM
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Yes, I know that. - But as I said I probably wanted back then adrenaline released (having no backup). - And so far I thought that "cleaning" with Vit Registry Fix wasn't harmful, but who knows what the reason is for the missing key and of course that could very well be the culprit!

Just to get you another shiver I also felt like compacting the registry that day. - That also went fine (no catastrophic incident happened).

And no .. my SSD-system didn't feel much faster after all that, but placebo effect is sometimes enough to be happy, you know?

Other people are train-surfing or sky-diving ... I do that (sometimes).
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Old October 5th, 2012, 04:41 PM
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And no .. my SSD-system didn't feel much faster after all that, but placebo effect is sometimes enough to be happy, you know?

Have you checked and cleared out your Non-Present Devices recently?
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Old October 5th, 2012, 04:45 PM
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News.

I thought I would take the burden from Joe and fix it myself.

What happened before I don't know of course, but after switching UAC a notch down (and then up again to standard/default) the mentioned registry entry came back.

And so poor new Webroot-Analyzer doesn't think anymore UAC would be disabled. Problem solved. - So what about that memory leak of firefox? That should scare me somehow, right? - But where is Webroot's memory cleaner, my companion in distress?

Just kidding. But please don't waste any more time with that missing entry, because it is back now, whatever the reason for it's absence was.

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Have you checked and cleared out your Non-Present Devices recently?

No. Whatever that is. (All devices present, just made a roll call).
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Old October 5th, 2012, 05:37 PM
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News.

I thought I would take the burden from Joe and fix it myself.

What happened before I don't know of course, but after switching UAC a notch down (and then up again to standard/default) the mentioned registry entry came back.

And so poor new Webroot-Analyzer doesn't think anymore UAC would be disabled. Problem solved. - So what about that memory leak of firefox? That should scare me somehow, right? - But where is Webroot's memory cleaner, my companion in distress?

Just kidding. But please don't waste any more time with that missing entry, because it is back now, whatever the reason for it's absence was.

The mystery is fixed Thanks! I'll keep my eyes open for future reports, knowing that this can happen by some mysterious unexplained action (oh, software...).
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Old October 5th, 2012, 06:18 PM
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No. Whatever that is. (All devices present, just made a roll call).

I've found Non-Present Devices to be the number one slowdown of Windows startup. My 1100 MB/s SSD Array started up twice as fast when I whacked them. They are devices that used to be on the system but have been removed, ranging from USB stuff plugged into different ports at different times to GPU and other hardware changes. Every time the computer starts up, it checks for all of these devices, even if they will never come back.

Set a system environment variable:
devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices
to a value of 1.

Get into the Device manager by any method you see fit, then View menu, and Show Hidden Devices.
Look under each section for things that are lighter-colored icons. In some sections (all Microsoft items under Sound and all Non Plug and Play Drivers) be very careful about removing them (Just don't remove the mentioned things), but in most places you can right-click and uninstall all the faded items with no problem even if you "screw up". A system restore point will also roll back the changes.

Maybe some day I'll bother to figure out how to put pictures inline and then I could show some examples. But for now I'll leave it to you.
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Old October 5th, 2012, 06:42 PM
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I believe you of course. But on this system I use here I don't have a lot of things that are not existing anymore. - In section Non-PNP-Driver ("translated") after entering via cmd "set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1" (is that right?) I found viewing hidden devices a leftover of ZeroVulnerabilities (that new tool) that I had uninstalled. So I have to see if computer will boot next time. - But interesting hint for sure that I will have in mind from now on.

Though I have only 1 SSD (Sata II, no Raid) you are right of course: it can't be fast enough and optimizing things (getting more speed from the same hardware) is always feeling great. - Things got much better when I uninstalled my other AV, leaving WRSA alone to the job, just to be on topic again.

p.s.: I guess for inline pictures you have to upload them first somewhere (else and then linking)?

p.p.s.: It seems I did something wrong in the beginning.
But now finally I saw a lot of those "ghost entries" (grey) after:

Code:
CMD as admin set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 devmgmt.msc -> show hidden devices

But before I maybe play around I should make a backup, right.
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I believe you of course. But on this system I use here I don't have a lot of things that are not existing anymore. - In section Non-PNP-Driver ("translated") after entering via cmd "set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1" (is that right?) I found viewing hidden devices a leftover of ZeroVulnerabilities (that new tool) that I had uninstalled. So I have to see if computer will boot next time. - But interesting hint for sure that I will have in mind from now on.

Though I have only 1 SSD (Sata II, no Raid) you are right of course: it can't be fast enough and optimizing things (getting more speed from the same hardware) is always feeling great. - Things got much better when I uninstalled my other AV, leaving WRSA alone to the job, just to be on topic again.

p.s.: I guess for inline pictures you have to upload them first somewhere (else and then linking)?

p.p.s.: It seems I did something wrong in the beginning.
But now finally I saw a lot of those "ghost entries" (grey) after:

Code:
CMD as admin set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 devmgmt.msc -> show hidden devices

But before I maybe play around I should make a backup, right.

Backup can't hurt, but I've never had a problem with just having a system restore point. If the uninstall offers a choice to delete the driver files from disk, don't do it.
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After uninstalling WSA Beta Winpatrol stil shows the WSA addon:
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Just remove it and re-install FINAL version of WSA
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Old October 8th, 2012, 07:34 PM
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I know how to remove it... also im a beta tester so why should i install the final?
This is the the beta thread and you post here about possible bugs etc and after an uninstall and reboot there shouldn't be that entry left.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 02:43 PM
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I know how to remove it... also im a beta tester so why should i install the final?
This is the the beta thread and you post here about possible bugs etc and after an uninstall and reboot there shouldn't be that entry left.

This could be caused from the browser being open during install. You can remove it manually without a problem.
 

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