SSUpdater.com Anti-Malware test

[rdsu]

Originally Posted by geko

Ok, lets see if I'm getting it right. Give me some help or information here.

From Emsisoft test thread, Andyman35 posted:



So does this mean that MBAM is useless (to say it someway) if you dont buy it?

The realtime protection does not work, if you dont buy it, right?

I mean if the scanner is not effective...

I don't know if the real-time protection from SAS or MBAM are good or not, but their on-demand scanner are the best.

[geko]

Originally Posted by rdsu

I don't know if the real-time protection from SAS or MBAM are good or not, but their on-demand scanner are the best.

On-demand scanner are the best ? ? ?

1 + 1 = 3

[Retadpuss]

Originally Posted by rdsu

Besides a lot of none sense, what I liked more about this "test" was when MikeNash justify that topic, at Wilders, with this!

Clearly, something has upset you. What is it? SSUpdater have conducted a test and published the results. The results are much the same as nearl every other test conducted in the last 12 months. For some reason you are saying the results are "non sense" - how is this so? Is it just the SSUpdater test that is nonsense? Is it the EMSI test/ Is it all tests?

When the other sites publish their tests, will they be "non sense" as well. Perhaps you can explain? perhaps you can advise them, share your thoughts with them so as to ensure their tests are not "non sense"

Would you like them to ignore the true test results and just list the products in an order you would prefer?

Please explain to us?

[rdsu]

Originally Posted by geko

On-demand scanner are the best ? ? ?

1 + 1 = 3

Against real threats they make a great job.

They already serves me very well while I'm helping some friends and clean other systems...

You can also check in forums that help infected users and see what I'm saying...

You can try yourself, if you or someone else need, or just ignore them...

What do you want more?

[Retadpuss]

Originally Posted by rdsu

I don't know if the real-time protection from SAS or MBAM are good or not, but their on-demand scanner are the best.

Ah, now the truth comes out - you are upset about MBAM. (as if we didnt know)

I would like to know how you know MBAM and SAS are the "best" - have you tried all the others?

Clearly, you would like us to ignore the evidence from all the tests conducted and just rely on your unfounded statement that a product made by a student is "the best".

[geko]

Originally Posted by rdsu

Against real threats they make a great job.

They already serves me very well while I'm helping some friends and clean other systems...

You can also check in forums that help infected users and see what I'm saying...

You can try yourself, if you or someone else need, or just ignore them...

What do you want more?

Oh well, I'll try again when someone looks for help. Lately many people have been asking me to clean their PC's or notebooks.

I dont know what they do, but I find incredible amounts of malware on their systems. Its been a while since I've had an infection.

The best way that I get rid of nastie malware is using Hijackthis. Gives a lot of information.

As I've said in another post MBAM hasnt been useful to me, yet.

[rdsu]

Originally Posted by Retadpuss

Clearly, something has upset you. What is it? SSUpdater have conducted a test and published the results. The results are much the same as nearl every other test conducted in the last 12 months. For some reason you are saying the results are "non sense" - how is this so? Is it just the SSUpdater test that is nonsense? Is it the EMSI test/ Is it all tests?

As I said on the other topic, you need to read better what I wrote.

Where did you see some reference about SSUpdater test on my posts!?

And if I said that, what is the problem? Should I have your parameters of quality?
Sorry, but I just to believe in everything I see...

Originally Posted by Retadpuss

When the other sites publish their tests, will they be "non sense" as well. Perhaps you can explain? perhaps you can advise them, share your thoughts with them so as to ensure their tests are not "non sense"

If you don't want to understand when a test is made because of marketing and without correct methods, is just your problem, or not.

Originally Posted by Retadpuss

Would you like them to ignore the true test results and just list the products in an order you would prefer?

Did I say something about the results order!?

Originally Posted by Retadpuss

Please explain to us?

This way it seems that I will have to take all my time to explain to you the obvious...

But this was the last time...

Take care.

[rdsu]

Originally Posted by geko

Oh well, I'll try again when someone looks for help. Lately many people have been asking me to clean their PC's or notebooks.

I dont know what they do, but I find incredible amounts of malware on their systems. Its been a while since I've had an infection.

The best way that I get rid of nastie malware is using Hijackthis. Gives a lot of information.

As I've said in another post MBAM hasn't been useful to me, yet.

You will never find the perfect tool, but they can help you...

Just because MBAM didn't help you until now, it doesn't mean it isn't good or you don't need it...

About HijackThis, you can also take a look at RunScanner...

[Retadpuss]

Originally Posted by rdsu

But this was the last time...

Take care.

Thank God.

[geko]

Originally Posted by rdsu

You will never find the perfect tool, but they can help you...

Just because MBAM didn't help you until now, it doesn't mean it isn't good or you don't need it...

About HijackThis, you can also take a look at RunScanner...

I know there isnt a perfect tool. I've never believed this.

As I've said before MBAM surely has to be helpful for something, I hope, but right now, I find other security software much more helpful. I dont want to have an inmense arsenal of security programs. This might be effective but not efficient.

I've already tried runscanner. It helped (dont remember for what), but as I've said before there are others.

[geko]

Originally Posted by ssj100

In my opnion, there's only a reason to make a fuss about these tests if you solely rely on black-listing programs like Anti-viruses, Anti-spywares, Hitman Pro, PrevX etc.

If you combine any black-listing program with a HIPS and/or a virtualisation/sandboxing program, these tests are rather irrelevant.

In saying that, I enjoy looking at these tests haha!

I agree, but the problem starts when the companies (black-listing programs) state that they are effective without a combination.

Where does this term, 'black-listing programs', come from?

[geko]

Originally Posted by ssj100

I'm not sure where that term comes from. It's a term that makes sense to me though haha!

Ok, looked at wikipedia:

An emerging approach in combating viruses and malware is to whitelist software which is considered safe to run, blocking all others. Some deem this as superior to the standard signature-based, anti-virus approach of blocking/removing known harmful software (essentially blacklisting), as the standard approach generally means that exploits are already in the wild.

I did know what whitelisting was.

Originally Posted by ssj100

I enjoy looking at these tests haha!

I like your "haha", it sounds nice and friendly

[Saraceno]

I have to admit, I was expecting to log in and see people going nuts in this thread. Instead, everyone is civil. Good stuff.

[andyman35]

Originally Posted by geko

Ok, lets see if I'm getting it right. Give me some help or information here.

From Emsisoft test thread, Andyman35 posted:



So does this mean that MBAM is useless (to say it someway) if you dont buy it?

The realtime protection does not work, if you dont buy it, right?

I mean if the scanner is not effective...

The realtime protection is only in the paid version,but the free version is far from useless.the confusion seems to be with the precise classification of this tool,it is not a replacement for a standard AV scanner.Where it works well is on a system that has become infected despite having an installed AV (it's especially good at removing rogues).

The best test I've seen of MBAM was Matt's at remove-malware,where it was tested in a realistic manner.Of course everyone has their own opinions but personally it's been a highly effective 'active infection remover' for me .I've never tested it's realtime capabilities so couldn't venture an opinion of that.

[geko]

Originally Posted by andyman35

The realtime protection is only in the paid version,but the free version is far from useless.the confusion seems to be with the precise classification of this tool,it is not a replacement for a standard AV scanner.Where it works well is on a system that has become infected despite having an installed AV (it's especially good at removing rogues).

The best test I've seen of MBAM was Matt's at remove-malware,where it was tested in a realistic manner.Of course everyone has their own opinions but personally it's been a highly effective 'active infection remover' for me .I've never tested it's realtime capabilities so couldn't venture an opinion of that.

You are absolutely right, this is the best test I have ever seen. I couldnt stop laughing.

Anyhow, I supose (I hope) this is not test you are refering to:

Name of the test: Malwarebytes Pro Removal and Detection Review

Right now on page 14.

remove-malware (page 14)

Direct link to the videos:

Part1 (-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Igb411IAY&feature=related-)
Part2 (-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fiL5y-oh88&feature=related-)
Part3 (-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcaTbmKOvs&feature=channel-)

One of the first phrases:
'one of the best antimalware programs I've used ever'

There is something I dont understand. MBAM quarantines the malware but the malware is still running... Is this possible?

I thought that security programs worked like this: 'identify, terminate and remove threats'. I mean, I cant delete a file if its running. Its a question, it might be possible, but its strange to me.

The stuff that need to be deleted after a reboot are registry keys not files, from what he says.

Another post that is funny: Malwarebytes Real-time Protection Only Prevents, Doesn’t Remove

I've seen other tests, I supose the ones you are refering to. He used MBAM, Dr web CureIt, Spyware doctor + AV and hyjackthis. I wonder what wouldve happened if he just used Spyware doctor + AV and maybe hyjackthis. Or maybe Dr Web and Hyjackthis. Or maybe a-squared and hyjackthis.

And one more thing, I find the videos about cleaning up infected systems helpful, but not a proof that the software is good. What would happen to his reputation if after cleaning up a system, some malware are still active. He would lose clients, so I find these videos kind of prepared, but hey, good marketing.

[andyman35]

Originally Posted by geko

You are absolutely right, this is the best test I have ever seen. I couldnt stop laughing.

Anyhow, I supose (I hope) this is not test you are refering to:

Name of the test: Malwarebytes Pro Removal and Detection Review

Right now on page 14.

remove-malware (page 14)

Direct link to the videos:

Part1 (-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Igb411IAY&feature=related-)
Part2 (-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fiL5y-oh88&feature=related-)
Part3 (-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcaTbmKOvs&feature=channel-)

One of the first phrases:
'one of the best antimalware programs I've used ever'

There is something I dont understand. MBAM quarantines the malware but the malware is still running... Is this possible?

I thought that security programs worked like this: 'identify, terminate and remove threats'. I mean, I cant delete a file if its running. Its a question, it might be possible, but its strange to me.

The stuff that need to be deleted after a reboot are registry keys not files, from what he says.

Another post that is funny: Malwarebytes Real-time Protection Only Prevents, Doesn’t Remove

I've seen other tests, I supose the ones you are refering to. He used MBAM, Dr web CureIt, Spyware doctor + AV and hyjackthis. I wonder what wouldve happened if he just used Spyware doctor + AV and maybe hyjackthis. Or maybe Dr Web and Hyjackthis. Or maybe a-squared and hyjackthis.

And one more thing, I find the videos about cleaning up infected systems helpful, but not a proof that the software is good. What would happen to his reputation if after cleaning up a system, some malware are still active. He would lose clients, so I find these videos kind of prepared, but hey, good marketing.

Of course you're right in what you're saying that with malware removal on clients' systems then there are many different approaches.Some work better against infection A,where a different approach works better for infection B.I don't limit myself to 1 or 2 products,in fact on my UBCD4Win disk there are about 15 tools available.It's just been my personal experience that when used appropriately MBAM has worked for me.