Wilders Security Forums  

Go Back   Wilders Security Forums > Security Products > other anti-virus software
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old July 18th, 2012, 08:27 AM
Stefan Kurtzhals's Avatar
Stefan Kurtzhals Stefan Kurtzhals is offline
AV Expert
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 625
Default Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Avira today relased an updated version of the Avira Protection Cloud beta client. Feel free to try it out, no registration is required this time.

For participation in our beta and providing feedback, please register in our BetaCenter: https://betacenter.avira.com/callout...7B7D1129D20105

Download client here: http://ulqa.ftp.avira.com/public/apc...view_setup.exe

More info here: http://www.avira.com/en/avira-protection-cloud
__________________
Chuck Norris does not use any antivirus software. He knows the hashes of all clean software on earth. Even those that are not compiled yet. It is not known if he got that list from dividing by zero or counting to infinity.
  #2  
Old July 18th, 2012, 08:50 AM
DX2's Avatar
DX2 DX2 is offline
Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Stockton, California
Posts: 189
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Fast and works well. You have to install Framework 4. Wish it had a right click scan option.
  #3  
Old July 18th, 2012, 09:01 AM
Osaban's Avatar
Osaban Osaban is offline
Massive Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,093
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

It actually took longer than the first version, more files were scanned and uploaded, without any FPs so far.
__________________
Samsung Series 7 Chronos & Windows 8 (64bit)
“We are the cosmos made conscious and life is the means by which the universe understands itself.” Brian Cox
  #4  
Old July 18th, 2012, 09:07 AM
RJK3 RJK3 is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 469
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Thanks for the link!

Uneventful - scanned 1000+ files in less than a minute. No FPs. Would be interesting to try on an infected machine.
  #5  
Old July 18th, 2012, 09:28 AM
clocks clocks is offline
Very Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,960
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Does it still just scan, and not have an option to remove?
  #6  
Old July 18th, 2012, 11:27 AM
Amin's Avatar
Amin Amin is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: *NY City*
Posts: 358
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

hi..
thanks to Stefan.
but.. what is this " Avira Protection Cloud " ? haven't heard of it before
is it separate from the main product or part of it ? ??

Edit: i think i figured out :
http://www.avira.com/en/avira-protection-cloud#tab1
__________________
Kingsoft Antivirus 2012 - Light , fast , powerful as Cheetah
Kingsoft PC Doctor - Make your computer stay at peak performance

Kingsoft Official website
Kingsoft Community
  #7  
Old July 18th, 2012, 05:39 PM
Macstorm's Avatar
Macstorm Macstorm is offline
Very Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sneffels volcano
Posts: 2,096
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Thanks, received an e-mail earlier today
__________________
Avira . G-Data.. F-Secure
  #8  
Old July 18th, 2012, 07:37 PM
Noob's Avatar
Noob Noob is offline
Massive Poster
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,252
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

I'll give it a try.
Is it just an On Demand scanner or it's like an On Access?
__________________
Emsisoft Anti-Malware v7.0.0.21 - Online Armor 6.0.0.1736
SRP - UAC - EMET

Browser: Google Chrome v25.xx

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
  #9  
Old July 18th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Ashanta Ashanta is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 417
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Is Avira Protection Cloud offering a protection layer when surfing the net or visiting sites ?
__________________
Realtime
AppGuard + Private Firewall + Exploit Shield free version

On Demand:
Shadow Defender, Hitman Pro 3.7, TDS Killer, Vba32 Anti-Rootkit, Rogue Killer, Combofix
  #10  
Old July 18th, 2012, 09:28 PM
DX2's Avatar
DX2 DX2 is offline
Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Stockton, California
Posts: 189
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

It's just a cloud scanner doing a smart scan like mbam..
  #11  
Old July 19th, 2012, 04:53 AM
Ashanta Ashanta is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 417
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Ok, but MBAM has a website protection when surfing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DX2
It's just a cloud scanner doing a smart scan like mbam..
__________________
Realtime
AppGuard + Private Firewall + Exploit Shield free version

On Demand:
Shadow Defender, Hitman Pro 3.7, TDS Killer, Vba32 Anti-Rootkit, Rogue Killer, Combofix
  #12  
Old July 19th, 2012, 10:01 AM
Mops21 Mops21 is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 814
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Avira Protection Cloud: Schlank und neugierig

http://www.chip.de/news/Avira-Protec..._56739566.html

http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php...hreadID=147004

Last edited by Mops21 : July 19th, 2012 at 11:34 AM.
  #13  
Old July 19th, 2012, 04:57 PM
LnSrocks LnSrocks is offline
Infrequent Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 8
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

any screenshots of the settings?
  #14  
Old July 20th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Barthez's Avatar
Barthez Barthez is offline
Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Poland
Posts: 104
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Tested it briefly, after scan it uploaded 66 files from my PC to cloud. Without my permission. I have nothing against uploading files after I allow it (and I'm not speaking about EULA here) or checking hashes of files automatically. Simple dialog after scan with yes/no options would be good: "Avira Cloud detected XX number of unknown files, to determine if file is safe it must be uploaded to cloud for automated checking. Upload files now?".

Also, I don't know what are plans for Avira Cloud, but if Avira wants to make it a separate product (a very good idea IMO) then it should think about making Avira Cloud a portable solution.

That's all I can think of right now
__________________
OS/Setup: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 x86/4GB RAM/9600GT GPU/E5200 CPU (more) / Opera Next
Protection: Emsisoft Anti-Malware, MBAM PRO, Comodo Firewall (only) 6, Router (firewall w/ SPI), SpywareBlaster

Rule of Acquisition No.285: No good deed ever goes unpunished.
  #15  
Old July 20th, 2012, 03:39 PM
d0t d0t is offline
Regular Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 174
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

how come i had never heard of it? just luved it

edit: scan if pretty fast. however, they have to work on whitelisting programs, because it uploaded some known stuff like VideoLan and etc

Last edited by d0t : July 20th, 2012 at 03:49 PM.
  #16  
Old July 20th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Ashanta Ashanta is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 417
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

I installed Avira Cloud beta on friend's laptop running on Vista 32 bits.

After launching, I clicked on Cloud Scan, and I had the message ' Preparing to scan' and nothing was happening. After a few minutes awaiting, I kill the program with TM. Any help or guidance will be helpfull, thanks.
__________________
Realtime
AppGuard + Private Firewall + Exploit Shield free version

On Demand:
Shadow Defender, Hitman Pro 3.7, TDS Killer, Vba32 Anti-Rootkit, Rogue Killer, Combofix
  #17  
Old July 20th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Amin's Avatar
Amin Amin is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: *NY City*
Posts: 358
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashanta
I installed Avira Cloud beta on friend's laptop running on Vista 32 bits.

After launching, I clicked on Cloud Scan, and I had the message ' Preparing to scan' and nothing was happening. After a few minutes awaiting, I kill the program with TM. Any help or guidance will be helpfull, thanks.

Have you provided the requirements ?


Code:
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package Internet connection Windows XP SP3 or higher
__________________
Kingsoft Antivirus 2012 - Light , fast , powerful as Cheetah
Kingsoft PC Doctor - Make your computer stay at peak performance

Kingsoft Official website
Kingsoft Community
  #18  
Old July 20th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Ashanta Ashanta is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 417
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

I need to check if Microsoft .NET Framework 4 is installed.

The others requirements, yes.
__________________
Realtime
AppGuard + Private Firewall + Exploit Shield free version

On Demand:
Shadow Defender, Hitman Pro 3.7, TDS Killer, Vba32 Anti-Rootkit, Rogue Killer, Combofix
  #19  
Old July 20th, 2012, 08:33 PM
Osaban's Avatar
Osaban Osaban is offline
Massive Poster
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,093
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashanta
I installed Avira Cloud beta on friend's laptop running on Vista 32 bits.

After launching, I clicked on Cloud Scan, and I had the message ' Preparing to scan' and nothing was happening. After a few minutes awaiting, I kill the program with TM. Any help or guidance will be helpfull, thanks.
On my Vista machine it behaves similarly, for a few minutes nothing seems to happen (except the CPU is working at 70-80%) and then suddenly the scan starts and goes fairly fast at this stage. I like to think that if you had waited a little bit longer the scan would have started normally.
__________________
Samsung Series 7 Chronos & Windows 8 (64bit)
“We are the cosmos made conscious and life is the means by which the universe understands itself.” Brian Cox
  #20  
Old July 21st, 2012, 02:26 AM
Stefan Kurtzhals's Avatar
Stefan Kurtzhals Stefan Kurtzhals is offline
AV Expert
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 625
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Quote:
After launching, I clicked on Cloud Scan, and I had the message ' Preparing to scan' and nothing was happening. After a few minutes awaiting, I kill the program with TM. Any help or guidance will be helpfull, thanks.

If you experience a long (larger than 30 seconds) delay for the "Preparing to scan" phase, you most likely have some security software active that has on-access scanning. We checked the logs of some customers that have this effect and found that Kaspersky, AVG and MSE so far can cause this. If you disable their on-access / monitoring feature just for the scan with the Avira scanner, the prepare time will be much faster. Behaviour blockers could also cause the delay, they (of course) use lots of system hooks too.

During that "preparing to scan" phase, the tool builds the list of files that needs to be scanned by searching your system. This causes somewhat high amount of file operations which can be slowed down by on-access scanners. We are working on optimizing the logic of that system search to cause less file operations.
__________________
Chuck Norris does not use any antivirus software. He knows the hashes of all clean software on earth. Even those that are not compiled yet. It is not known if he got that list from dividing by zero or counting to infinity.

Last edited by Stefan Kurtzhals : July 21st, 2012 at 02:32 AM.
  #21  
Old July 21st, 2012, 02:41 AM
Stefan Kurtzhals's Avatar
Stefan Kurtzhals Stefan Kurtzhals is offline
AV Expert
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 625
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Quote:
edit: scan if pretty fast. however, they have to work on whitelisting programs, because it uploaded some known stuff like VideoLan and etc

Just checking with the team leader that maintains our clean file set, VLC should be definitively in the set. Please report if you notice more uploads of popular tools, we are synchronizing the cloud statistics with our clean set, so those uploads shouldn't happen normally.
__________________
Chuck Norris does not use any antivirus software. He knows the hashes of all clean software on earth. Even those that are not compiled yet. It is not known if he got that list from dividing by zero or counting to infinity.
  #22  
Old July 21st, 2012, 04:43 AM
RejZoR's Avatar
RejZoR RejZoR is online now
Polymorphic Sheep
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Europe/Slovenia/Ljubljana
Posts: 5,367
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

I'm thinking now, you made this preview, now you're gathering data, eventually, you'll use this tech in AVIRA AV right?
__________________
RejZoR's Little Secrets
  #23  
Old July 21st, 2012, 08:52 AM
Stefan Kurtzhals's Avatar
Stefan Kurtzhals Stefan Kurtzhals is offline
AV Expert
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 625
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Yes, this tech will definitively be used in the regular Avira products sooner or later. First step will be also just the quick system scan, but that is only a *very* basic usage of that technology.
__________________
Chuck Norris does not use any antivirus software. He knows the hashes of all clean software on earth. Even those that are not compiled yet. It is not known if he got that list from dividing by zero or counting to infinity.
  #24  
Old July 21st, 2012, 06:11 PM
Ashanta Ashanta is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 417
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

Stefan,

Yes, indeed, my friend has MBAM with real time protection. I will try it next time to disable MBAM protection and see what's happening.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan Kurtzhals
If you experience a long (larger than 30 seconds) delay for the "Preparing to scan" phase, you most likely have some security software active that has on-access scanning. We checked the logs of some customers that have this effect and found that Kaspersky, AVG and MSE so far can cause this. If you disable their on-access / monitoring feature just for the scan with the Avira scanner, the prepare time will be much faster. Behaviour blockers could also cause the delay, they (of course) use lots of system hooks too.

__________________
Realtime
AppGuard + Private Firewall + Exploit Shield free version

On Demand:
Shadow Defender, Hitman Pro 3.7, TDS Killer, Vba32 Anti-Rootkit, Rogue Killer, Combofix
  #25  
Old July 21st, 2012, 06:12 PM
Ashanta Ashanta is offline
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 417
Default Re: Avira Protection Cloud public beta

I will waiting for more time next time, thanks Osaban.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Osaban
On my Vista machine it behaves similarly, for a few minutes nothing seems to happen (except the CPU is working at 70-80%) and then suddenly the scan starts and goes fairly fast at this stage. I like to think that if you had waited a little bit longer the scan would have started normally.
__________________
Realtime
AppGuard + Private Firewall + Exploit Shield free version

On Demand:
Shadow Defender, Hitman Pro 3.7, TDS Killer, Vba32 Anti-Rootkit, Rogue Killer, Combofix
 

Wilders Security Forums > Security Products > other anti-virus software « Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Settings
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2002 - 2013, Wilders Security Forums