Eset expects desktop thieves?

[xtrax]

I have v6 beta installed on my desktop, but no way of removing or disabling anti theft.

Does this mean Eset expect thieves to break into a house, steal their desktop, and connect online?

Either make a new product line or give us an option to disable or not install.

[SweX]

Hello xtrax!

FYI see these two posts.

First a question about Anti-Theft
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showp...3&postcount=17

Then answer from an ESET Mod.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showp...5&postcount=18


HTH, SweX

[Spruce]

Beta versions are for testing, but people don't get it and install instantly on production machines and think it's the final product...

[pegr]

Originally Posted by Spruce

Beta versions are for testing, but people don't get it and install instantly on production machines and think it's the final product...

I agree.

ESET are obviously trying to get people to take a look at the new anti-theft feature for marketing reasons in the hope that it will act as a spur to encourage people with laptops to buy (or upgrade to) Smart Security. As it is beta software provided free of charge, I don't have a problem with this. Nobody is forced to install the software if they don't agree with the terms and conditions.

I have a desktop computer but I registered the anti-theft feature anyway, partly to get rid of the exclamation mark in the system tray icon, and also to take a closer look at this new feature. It does appear to be quite innovative for users with laptops. So long as there is the option to disable it in the final paid version, there shouldn't be any complaints.

Unfortunately, I had to uninstall the beta because NOD32 conflicted with AppGuard and froze my system when I connected my USB hard drive (already reported in another thread).

[encus]

I think Eset should give user the option to disable this Anti Theft feature in its future official release.

[xtrax]

They better have a not install or disable feature in the final version. Imagine one day Eset Ant-Theft server gets hacked, all of the customers' online activity would be exposed. Other security companies have been hacked before, so there is a possibility.

This could mean that hackers will have screenshots of email messages, online banking information, etc. I would definitely disable it during my online banking sessions or checking emails.

This feature is sort of useless, you have to rely on the thief to connect online, when one can steal the victim's personal data offline if there is no login or format the drive and install the correct OS with the serial key under the laptop.

Once thieves learn about the flaw to this Anti-Theft product, which they will if this product is marketed successfully. The thief would be cautious enough to not connect online, or try to look for an Eset or Norton tray icon.

[encus]

Originally Posted by xtrax

They better have a not install or disable feature in the final version. Imagine one day Eset Ant-Theft server gets hacked, all of the customers' online activity would be exposed. Other security companies have been hacked before, so there is a possibility.

This could mean that hackers will have screenshots of email messages, online banking information, etc. I would definitely disable it during my online banking sessions or checking emails.

This feature is sort of useless, you have to rely on the thief to connect online, when one can steal the victim's personal data offline if there is no login or format the drive and install the correct OS with the serial key under the laptop.

Once thieves learn about the flaw to this Anti-Theft product, which they will if this product is marketed successfully. The thief would be cautious enough to not connect online, or try to look for an Eset or Norton tray icon.

I agree with you. I also have this paranoid kind of thoughts that this Anti Theft feature can one day be used by some people as a spy tool (i.e. taking pictures of user without he/she even knows it). This really freaks me out.

[agoretsky]

Hello,

ESET Smart Security 6 is a beta test version. It has been released by ESET to get feedback on new features.

ESET product licenses are not tied to a specific version of a program, so if someone had a valid license for ESET Smart Security 3, 4, or 5 they could upgrade for free to version 6 when it came out.

Likewise, if someone purchased ESET Smart Security 6 and wanted to run an earlier version for some reason, they could use their license credentials to download and install ESET Smart Security 3, 4, or 5.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

Originally Posted by pegr

I agree.

ESET are obviously trying to get people to take a look at the new anti-theft feature for marketing reasons in the hope that it will act as a spur to encourage people with laptops to buy (or upgrade to) Smart Security. As it is beta software provided free of charge, I don't have a problem with this. Nobody is forced to install the software if they don't agree with the terms and conditions.

I have a desktop computer but I registered the anti-theft feature anyway, partly to get rid of the exclamation mark in the system tray icon, and also to take a closer look at this new feature. It does appear to be quite innovative for users with laptops. So long as there is the option to disable it in the final paid version, there shouldn't be any complaints.

Unfortunately, I had to uninstall the beta because NOD32 conflicted with AppGuard and froze my system when I connected my USB hard drive (already reported in another thread).

[zfactor]

while i am testing the feature can you please confirm there will be a way to disable it WITHOUT the notification of not being fully protected or the exclamation point in the tray icon?? while i think some will use it and i am testing it i personally honestly do not really want or have a need for it.

[encus]

Originally Posted by zfactor

while i am testing the feature can you please confirm there will be a way to disable it WITHOUT the notification of not being fully protected or the exclamation point in the tray icon?? while i think some will use it and i am testing it i personally honestly do not really want or have a need for it.

I don't think that's possible, at least until official release.

[GODFATHA]

You should invest in a pit bull or either an alarm system........nah j/k man. You should follow agoretsky rules.

[Atul88]

I don't think any one should be installing this BETA if u are using your pc everyday. It is soooo Buggy!!!
while playing games its process uses 100% cpu!!! And there is no other way but to restart your pc!!

[zfactor]

i am really not having issues with it myself.. not sure why but its been totally smooth..

[Marcos]

Originally Posted by encus

I don't think that's possible, at least until official release.

In the final release, it will be possible to disable Anti-Theft without notifications.

[Cutting_Edgetech]

Does anyone know if any changes have been made to the removal engine? It seems to me that it needs the most improvement out of all Eset's features.

[Marcos]

Originally Posted by Cutting_Edgetech

Does anyone know if any changes have been made to the removal engine? It seems to me that it needs the most improvement out of all Eset's features.

Detection is continually improved with everyday updates to address newly emerging threats. Malware removal is not bad at all, if you're having issues cleaning a particular infection, let us know what threat was detected and where. For bootkits like Olmarik, you will need to use the stand-alone cleaner downloadable from ESET's website. Just for clarification, v3/4/5/6 use the same engine and modules so they are equal in terms of detection / removal.

[SweX]

Originally Posted by Marcos

Just for clarification, v3/4/5/6 use the same engine and modules so they are equal in terms of detection / removal.

Hi Marcos.

I don't want to start a new thread so I will ask here.

I have seen you mention that both V3/4/5 plus 6 now uses the same engine.

I don't complain on the current engine, but every time you mention it I can't stop wondering if there is a new engine currently under development.

So is there a new engine in the works?

Cheers.

[Marcos]

Originally Posted by SweX

I don't complain on the current engine, but every time you mention it I can't stop wondering if there is a new engine currently under development.
So is there a new engine in the works?

There's really no need for a new engine as the current one can be improved continually unlike the v1/v2 engine.

[toxinon12345]

Is the new <heuristic detection in memory> intended to perfect the ThreatSense engine or will add behavior tracking at runtime?

[Marcos]

Originally Posted by toxinon12345

Is the new <heuristic detection in memory> intended to perfect the ThreatSense engine or will add behavior tracking at runtime?

It pertains to memory scans and is used by all versions, from v3 onwards.

[encus]

Originally Posted by Marcos

In the final release, it will be possible to disable Anti-Theft without notifications.

What I and probably most of the future users really expect .
Thanks Marcos.

[toxinon12345]

Originally Posted by Marcos

It pertains to memory scans and is used by all versions, from v3 onwards.

Thanks for your clarification

[SweX]

Originally Posted by Marcos

There's really no need for a new engine as the current one can be improved continually unlike the v1/v2 engine.

I see, I didn't know that. That's good to know

Thanks for the answer