Shall I disable my pagefile if I have an SSD + 16 GB RAM?

[berryracer]

I have a Kingston KC100 STA-III SSD + GEIL 16GB DDR3 PC1333 RAM....


I have set my page file to a fixed 1024 MB min/max size

But I am scared that all of this RAM might go wasted if there is a pagefile..

What if Windows is stupid to actually put the kernel files in the pagefile rather than in the faster RAM?

Please guide me

[Hungry Man]

Windows will never page the kernel unless you have absolutely no RAM left.

You'll probably never ever hit page with 16GB. Maybe a few MB from some program that is using it on purpose.

I say leave it.

[Carver]

4 MB is plenty for a page file (more than enough).

[berryracer]

Originally Posted by Hungry Man

Windows will never page the kernel unless you have absolutely no RAM left.

You'll probably never ever hit page with 16GB. Maybe a few MB from some program that is using it on purpose.

I say leave it.

Thanks Mr. Hungry Man.

I value your opinion always as you seem to know what you're talking about

Ill leave it as it is...1024 min / max

[1chaoticadult]

Originally Posted by berryracer

Thanks Mr. Hungry Man.

I value your opinion always as you seem to know what you're talking about

Ill leave it as it is...1024 min / max

I have a similar setup to you and I use a small pagefile. Good choice

[berryracer]

Originally Posted by 1chaoticadult

I have a similar setup to you and I use a small pagefile. Good choice

Thanks for the confirmation dude

any reason why we should leave a small page file?

I didn't face a problem in the past with the page file off for 2 years but just wanna be safe...


any reason you wanna tell me?

[1chaoticadult]

Originally Posted by berryracer

Thanks for the confirmation dude

any reason why we should leave a small page file?

I didn't face a problem in the past with the page file off for 2 years but just wanna be safe...


any reason you wanna tell me?

Well I did run it without a pagefile when I had 8GB in another laptop had a few years ago and it didn't seem to make a difference so I just made a small pagefile for safe measures I suppose.

[berryracer]

Originally Posted by 1chaoticadult

Well I did run it without a pagefile when I had 8GB in another laptop had a few years ago and it didn't seem to make a difference so I just made a small pagefile for safe measures I suppose.

I see, alright thanks dude, ill do that too

[1chaoticadult]

Originally Posted by berryracer

I see, alright thanks dude, ill do that too

No problem.

[Hungry Man]

There are only two reasons I can think of to leave a pagefile when you have 16GB of RAM and you're not at risk of OOM errors:
1) If you get a kernel panic/BSOD you need the pagefile or you can't see the log. Not a big deal.
2) Some programs are built assuming you have one. Older programs, some old games, photoshop.

Keep it as it is for optimal compatibility.

[stapp]

You need a page file of a certain size to create memory and kernel dumps.

Info here

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/254649

[aladdin]

Originally Posted by stapp

You need a page file of a certain size to create memory and kernel dumps.

Info here

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/254649

Very true!

I have four computers with SSDs on all of them.

1. Laptop A has 16GB RAM.
2. Laptop B has 8GB RAM.
3. Desktop C has 8GB RAM.
4. Desktop D has 6GB RAM.

On all the above the PageFile is set 2048/2048 min/max.

Best regards,

KOR!

P.S. On both Laptops, I have turned off the Hibernate!.

[The Hammer]

Originally Posted by berryracer

Thanks Mr. Hungry Man.

I value your opinion always as you seem to know what you're talking about

Ill leave it as it is...1024 min / max

How about we go with a lot of the time instead of always. Otherwise he'll get a big head.

[1chaoticadult]

Originally Posted by The Hammer

How about we go with a lot of the time instead of always. Otherwise he'll get a big head.

Too late he already has a big head lol, just kidding...

[berryracer]

Originally Posted by The Hammer

How about we go with a lot of the time instead of always. Otherwise he'll get a big head.

hAHA

LOL he never was a big head fmo what I see him posting here and the notebook review forums

[NGRhodes]

Originally Posted by berryracer

I have a Kingston KC100 STA-III SSD + GEIL 16GB DDR3 PC1333 RAM....


I have set my page file to a fixed 1024 MB min/max size

But I am scared that all of this RAM might go wasted if there is a pagefile..

What if Windows is stupid to actually put the kernel files in the pagefile rather than in the faster RAM?

Please guide me

Its not stupid to page parts of the kernel out IF needed (such as when active process needs ram over idle parts of kernel). Drivers and parts of the kernel (most of it actually) and kernel data that should not be able to be paged out to disk are marked as so.

Right onto the meat of the topic :

To optimally size your paging file you should start all the applications you run at the same time, load typical data sets, and then note the commit charge peak (or look at this value after a period of time where you know maximum load was attained). Set the paging file minimum to be that value minus the amount of RAM in your system (if the value is negative, pick a minimum size to permit the kind of crash dump you are configured for). If you want to have some breathing room for potentially large commit demands, set the maximum to double that number.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/markrussi...7/3155406.aspx

Do you have any realworld figures to show that there is actually any peformance to be gained from disabling pagefile ? - You need to perform some before/after benchmarks to prove disabling the pagefile actually improves peformance under your typical workloads.

Cheers, Nick

[Hungry Man]

There was a benchmark done by tomshardware. 8GB, 12GB, 16GB with pagefiles on/off for video rendering.

8GB crashed without page file. 12GB and 16GB were significantly faster without it.

Still, I think leaving the page file is fine. It won't get hit unless there's a massive amount of RAM being used.

[Yakuman]

Here's an interesting read: http://www.tweakhound.com/2011/10/10...g-without-one/

The test PC ended up with essentially no performance difference either way.

[Enigm]

Please read the articles by Russinocivh Nick Rhodes linked to :

Pushing the Limits of Windows: Virtual Memory
By Mark Russinovich
https://blogs.technet.com/b/markruss...edirected=true

You can get away with disabling the page-file.. Until you do something that requires it or you use a program that expects paging to be enabled .
How much does a BSOD improve performance ?
This is one of the worst 'performance-tweaks' ever .
http://lifehacker.com/5426041/unders...dnt-disable-it

[NGRhodes]

Originally Posted by Enigm

Please read the articles by Russinocivh Nick Rhodes linked to :


You can get away with disabling the page-file.. Until you do something that requires it or you use a program that expects paging to be enabled .
How much does a BSOD improve performance ?
This is one of the worst 'performance-tweaks' ever .
http://lifehacker.com/5426041/unders...dnt-disable-it

You can't disable paging itself in Windows, just the pagefile ).
Apps that crash is a result of expecting a larger allocation of memory pages (which are mapped to physical ram and pagefile if available) than available. Adding physical ram will solve the crash the same way adding the same amount of pagefile space.

Cheers, Nick

[CloneRanger]

Depends if you're concerned about privacy, or not !

No PageFile = NO PG sniffing by Anyone, EVER = I've had mine disabled since 98SE days, & for ever on XP. I only have 2Gb of RAM & Never had Any issues

Originally Posted by CloneRanger

Depends if you're concerned about privacy, or not !

No PageFile = NO PG sniffing by Anyone, EVER = I've had mine disabled since 98SE days, & for ever on XP. I only have 2Gb of RAM & Never had Any issues

You can encrypt the pagefile too..

[CloneRanger]

Originally Posted by guest

You can encrypt the pagefile too..

Yes good tip, but if you don't need it, blast it i say

[jo3blac1]

I've disabled pagefile for at least 5 years. As long as you have enough RAM you are unlikely to run into any problems.