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Old May 4th, 2012, 11:52 AM
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Default Torrenting through VPN and Surfing

In the eyes of the ISP, what it means to them when one

- p2p/torrent on a VPN configured PC ( to unthrottle)
- and at the same time, another PC connecting via the same network without VPN and surfing, checking email, bill payments etc..
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Old May 4th, 2012, 03:32 PM
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All they would see is that you are connected to 2 VPNs. They can not see your traffic. Im not sure if that is the answer you are looking for? As far is it looking suspicious that you are connected to a VPN from 2 different PCS. I dont see how that could be looked on as suspicious.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 06:58 PM
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Your ISP probably knows just what you said (or could if they tried). If your VPN uses the standard OpenVPN UDP port 1194, it's obvious. Even if it uses the HTTPS port 443, the upload/download ratio and traffic shape for torrenting are quite distinctive. But they couldn't see what you're torrenting.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 09:28 PM
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I believe he is saying what would the ISP think if one was connected to a VPN to torrent, and surf the web on one PC, and have another PC not connected to a VPN for bills, email, banking etc.. He does not have 2 different VPN connections. He only has one. If your high bandwidth usage triggered a flag with their monitoring system then they would most likely know you are participating in P2P activity, but if your VPN service provider knows what they are doing, and your VPN is configured correctly on your machine then they will not know what you are downloading or uploading or what webpages you are visiting. They will just know you are using a lot of bandwidth which they may not like, but they can't really say anything about it since you paid for the bandwidth. Some ISP's may even like it that their customers use anonymous VPN's. I'm sure it cuts down on the complaints they have to address through their legal department which saves them money. I'm just not so sure if the additional bandwidth the ISP's have to pay for outway the savings in not having to address legal complaints. They probably don't, but i'm not sure. Its all about them making money. Make sure your VPN uses Open VPN protocol which is less likely to leak your DNS than the other VPN protocols, and make sure they use at least 128 bit encryption. Its best if a VPN uses a multi-hop network. Its also best to use a VPN that does not keep logs. The best VPN I have ever used for P2P is Boleh VPN. Their network is optimized for P2P use. You will see little to no slow down in speed. You may even see an increase in speed. I'm not sure you could find a more P2P friendly VPN.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 03:58 AM
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u hit the nail.

i guess it doesnt matter, as the ISP already know who i am but wasnt sure what i am doing through VPN.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 11:08 AM
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In the eyes of the ISP, what it means to them when one

- p2p/torrent on a VPN configured PC ( to unthrottle)
- and at the same time, another PC connecting via the same network without VPN and surfing, checking email, bill payments etc..


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Old May 10th, 2012, 06:31 PM
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Is there any way to watch videos on TOR without ruining your anonymity?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:44 PM
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Is there any way to watch videos on TOR without ruining your anonymity?
There have been recent posts to tor-talk about this. Basically, you download first, and then open files in a machine with no network access. See "Basic questions from new user but..." at -https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2012-May/024184.html .
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 12:08 AM
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you better use SSH tunnels to encrypt your connection and stay anonymous when needed. I'm using PirateRay and I had no issues with it so far.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 12:35 AM
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you better use SSH tunnels to encrypt your connection and stay anonymous when needed. I'm using PirateRay and I had no issues with it so far.

What a perfect name for a honeypot. I can see STING a mile away with "torrent-friendly" VPN services.
 

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