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Old April 21st, 2012, 10:50 AM
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one of my collegues few days ago suggested new for me program to virtualisation...it's called BitDisk Free. I never heard about it and decided to search some info...by this way I found 3 version of BitDisk
BitDisk Free - v. 5.2.0.8
http://www.bitdisksite.com/en/
and BitDisk Pro - v. 6.0.2
BitDisk 7 - v. 7.0.2
http://www.bitdisk.de/en/index.html
I would ask you...anyone have some information or experience with this apps?
I try the free version, but I was afraid to finish the installation...required a reboot...and I have some screenshots from "two-ways creator":
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Old April 21st, 2012, 02:42 PM
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well i havent heard of it but im also curious how good it is...
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Old April 21st, 2012, 03:39 PM
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looks quite interesting but want more data and reliable testing . I for one will not rely on their marketing and press media.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 06:27 PM
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The moment you install BitDisk7 on your computer, all and any changes that take place thereafter are not registered. Instead, they are stored in a special container on the hard drive and are removed after reboot, bringing the computer back to its original "perfect" state.

BitDisk features an easy-to-use interface and is perfect for both home and office users. It protects from virus attacks, unstable software, user misconduct due to incompetence or intentional abuse, malware and spyware, Windows crashes, loss of any software and files.
Images from Softpedia -http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/BitDisk-Screenshot-153592.html

The latest release seems to date back to 2010.
EDIT: Maybe someone using VMs could test it?

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Old April 22nd, 2012, 01:10 AM
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Instead, they are stored in a special container on the hard drive and are removed after reboot
It's true...I noticed in my lap the new big file (ca 5,4 GB) and it looks this file was such "container" - it called a little strange $udjour$.$$$. Its size was deffault 30% (see screenshot with slider) but I don't know what impact does this amount of the work program.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 01:37 AM
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It's true...I noticed in my lap the new big file (ca 5,4 GB) and it looks this file was such "container" - it called a little strange $udjour$.$$$. Its size was deffault 30% (see screenshot with slider) but I don't know what impact does this amount of the work program.
Did you try it yet? (Install a program, reboot and see if it cleans up?)
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 05:04 AM
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No...not yet skudo I don't know why but i don't trust BD...container was made before rebooting. Im waiting for someone more brave
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 05:14 AM
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I'll try it if I still have my Virtual Box installed. LOL.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 06:55 AM
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I installed in virtualbox win7x64, and after first reboot bitdisk was disabled, and nothing happened when clicking on "enable", only "buy now" worked
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 08:14 AM
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Maybe it's because it's installed in a virtual machine? Hmm.. Maybe I'll try it in my old desktop. lol.
I'm kinda interested since there's a few bunch that offers free virtualization.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 06:51 AM
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Just contacted the developer and asked him to join us at this thread.
Wait and see
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Can you commit files to the real system with BitDisk?
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Old April 27th, 2012, 02:51 AM
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Can you commit files to the real system with BitDisk?
No one tested it yet, lol.
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Old May 1st, 2012, 07:49 AM
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As I stated earlier I contacted the developer of BitDisk and asked him to joins us and/or react on our natural paranoia towards unknown software

I just got a mail from him:
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Hello Coen,

.....So I will tell you something, BitDisk is a product of our company “QuickTerm West” we are located in Cologne (Germany) and we have our own programmers which, for example, have developed the software “BitDisk”.

Our company exists already since 10 years. The main-business we do with our Software “Surf-Control” which is used in casinos or gambling halls. Surf-Control is a internet terminal software, where BitDisk is implemented, so every time a guest logout – windows will reset to its original condition. So the next guest have a clean OS to work (all data’s will be restored and new data’s will be deleted, also viruses, Trojans and so on will be removed after a reboot. Therefore, BitDisk will get the saved image every reboot. When installing BitDisk there are 3 Options when used the extended installation: Option 1 is using file system, that means BitDisk it will create a file on partition c: and in this file BitDisk will save the image or save changes on the image. But the image is visible and is located on c: and this is not 100% protection.

Option 2 is Journal: In this case you must create a “hidden” second partition which has no drive-letter, and it is not formatted – by that option the hidden partition is smaller than the protected partition. The disadvantage of Journal is, when the hidden partition has run out of space, an automatic restart will be performed. The best and safest method is the third called Option 3 Mirror: Is the same Option like Journal – creating a second “hidden” partition with no letter-drive and which is not formatted – but the difference is in Option is that the hidden partition is bigger than the partition which has to be protected!

The advantages of option 3, compared to the other option are:

- The image is located on a hidden partition where the people not have direct access.

- The hidden partition has enough storage capacity, so a automatic reboot (like in Journal) can´t happen.

Well, I hope that this little presentation of our company and products was sufficient, and we were able to gain your trust.

Naturally I allow, and please you to copy this email to the forum.

I think this is a good forum, because that I'll try check your forum everytime when I have some time

If there are further questions we are available for disposal.

best regards

Bastian Zweinig


If you dive a little bit more in the company they seem legit.
I will it try this week
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Old May 4th, 2012, 09:47 AM
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Hello wilders security forum,

today I have created this account for our company QuickTerm West.
Because here are some question about our product BitDisk, I can reply directly.
You all are interested in BitDisk, but on the other hand you dont trust bitdisk,
unfortunately.
Therefore, I have a sketch that describes the functions of bitdisk and i have translated into English.
Perhaps you'd be interested in the sketch or it can take off some of your fear.
Here is the sketch:

http://quickterm.de/images/Schema-BitDisk.jpg


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Old May 4th, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: BitDisk - anybody heard about it?

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You all are interested in BitDisk, but on the other hand you dont trust bitdisk,
unfortunately.
Hi QuickTermWest Nice to see you and to read your info...but you shouldn't be surprised that we are careful and even don't trust apps that are unknown. We are talking about security...right?
Could you explain more clearly how are differences among version free (5), Pro (6) and 7?
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Old May 6th, 2012, 01:42 AM
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Hello wilders security forum,

today I have created this account for our company QuickTerm West.
Because here are some question about our product BitDisk, I can reply directly.
You all are interested in BitDisk, but on the other hand you dont trust bitdisk,
unfortunately.
Therefore, I have a sketch that describes the functions of bitdisk and i have translated into English.
Perhaps you'd be interested in the sketch or it can take off some of your fear.
Here is the sketch:

http://quickterm.de/images/Schema-BitDisk.jpg


Best regards

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Thank you for joining us here . It's normal here that unknown apps doesn't get trusted easily, but now that you've joined us, it will reduce that anxiety.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 05:35 AM
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I am also interested in this software. Hopefully, someone will test it out for us! :-)
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Old May 6th, 2012, 05:37 AM
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Thank you QuickTermWest for joining the forum and providing more information about your company and software product! I look forward to learning more about BitDisk.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 08:04 AM
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Excellent, i am also happy too see official person from Bitdisk here Welcome!
Looking forward to use this security app!
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Old May 7th, 2012, 09:31 AM
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Hello,

it is true. Safety is one of the most important aspects in the IT area, by inattention the operating system could/will be damaged, the privacy can be spied or in the in the worst case hardware can take damage.
Most computer users dont care about the security of their data or their pcs, unfortunately.
The idea of our programm BitDisk is: If a virus, trojan, worm, etc. come on the pc this parasite will be removed at next time the system reboot - because the original status of windows will be restored.

@ichito
i will explain now the differences between the three existing BitDisk versions:

BitDisk Free, is a unlimited Demoversion - but the functions are limited. So it is not possible to set/change the passwort or to choose the protect options "journal" and "mirror" while installing BitDisk Free Version. And the option "apply changes" cant be used, so you will need to restart to put the protection off - than you could do the the changes and after that you must restart again to put the protection on again. While in options "apply changes" all changes in the current windows session will be saved, without restarting.

BitDisk 7 and BitDisk Pro have unlimited functions - it could be used all functions. Operatively they do the same work, but the GUI (graphical user interface) is complete different. I would prefer BitDisk Pro because i know BitDisk and how to handle it and BitDisk Pro had a smarter interface. Now, i would like to say BitDisk Pro is for peopole who has a good technical knowledge.

I hope I was able to show/explain differences between the BitDisk versions
If you have further questions, I will look forward to your questions


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I don't believe BitDisk Free is of any value and a waste of time. You would need to PAY to get all functions needed to restore a system properly.

Would you trust this program?

And does it restore your PC at every single boot, no matter what? If so, how do you keep changes? I dont think the freeware version can do it? I think the freeware version is very crippled and not worthy of installing?

They don't have a COMPARISON chart between the BitDisk 7 FREE and BitDisk 7, so it's impossible to know what the FREE version can do, and cannot do.

And there doesn't exist a single review on youtube either.

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I don't believe BitDisk Free is of any value and a waste of time. You would need to PAY to get all functions needed to restore a system properly.

Would you trust this program?

And does it restore your PC at every single boot, no matter what? If so, how do you keep changes? I dont think the freeware version can do it? I think the freeware version is very crippled and not worthy of installing?

You clearly do not understand the concept of light virtualisation. The intention with all such software whether free or paid is to maintain a system at a fixed baseline. Once you have setup your computer you install the program and enable protection: this locks your system and until protection is disabled again any changes made will be discarded every time you reboot. The purpose of this is twofold: it clears any malware that may have infected the system whilst protection was enabled; further it enables multiple individuals to use the same computer account without any changes made by one person lasting beyond his session, as with a computer in a public library.

Of course nobody wants everything that they do with their computer to disappear at the end of each day, so there are two primary methods of preserving wanted data: the first is to save changes made (bookmarks, files etc) to a disk other than the protected disk, such as to a secondary partition or a USB drive; for changes that need to be made to the Operating System partition such as when installing new programs you turn off the 'virtual desktop' mode and make your changes, switching the protection back on again once you have finished. To these two the paid and Professional versions of Bitdisk add a third option: to be given the chance in any session to commit the changes made to the disk even though protected mode is active, this effectively copies the work that you have done on the virtual partition to the real hard drive. Of course you need to take care when selecting this option to ensure that you certainly haven't infected your system during that session, otherwise that too will be saved.

In concept such software is somewhat similar to rollback software or restoring afresh from an image every day, with more security and stability than offered by rollback software and without having to wait every morning while your imaging program slowly copies everything back over again. Both the freeware and paid versions look fully useful to those who understand their purpose. Of course light virtualisation isn't for everyone (myself included at present) but there are many on this forum who use such protection as a primary component in their security.

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They don't have a COMPARISON chart between the BitDisk 7 FREE and BitDisk 7, so it's impossible to know what the FREE version can do, and cannot do.

Yes there is, it's on the Bitdisk Free page and besides he just told you.

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And there doesn't exist a single review on youtube either.

You must be joking.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 03:02 AM
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@TheMozart,

On second thoughts I do no think Bitdisk, TimeFreeze or Returnil are an answer to your problems. It is better to tackle the root of your problems, better to reformat and re-install

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I have been trying the free version for the last few days and it is an excellent program. It seems to be an answer to Shadow Defender.

Today, when I tried to buy it from the free version, it gave me the following error:

"ERROR 404 - PAGE NOT FOUND'

I also tried to buy it online, but the instructions were in German language.

I have few questions for the developer dear Mr. QuickTermWest:

1. How is the implementation of BitDisk in regards to SSD?
2. What is the activation method. Is it online or offline?
3. I have four computers, is the software licensed per user meaning that can I use it on all my four computers (not family member)?
4. What is the upgrade policy?
5. Does it protects the MBR?
6. See below?

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Hello,
BitDisk 7 and BitDisk Pro have unlimited functions - it could be used all functions. Operatively they do the same work, but the GUI (graphical user interface) is complete different. I would prefer BitDisk Pro because i know BitDisk and how to handle it and BitDisk Pro had a smarter interface. Now, i would like to say BitDisk Pro is for peopole who has a good technical knowledge.
Bastian Zweinig
Why you prefer BitDisk PRO over BitDisk 7?

Best regards,

KOR!

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