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Yes 4 8.89%
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Does WildersSecurity.com need a Facebook page?

As most issues and decisions regarding forum policies are never discussed or decided by members the whole debate is a waste of time. I also agree there's a lot of prejudice against Facebook. I didn't vote.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:33 PM
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Not much of a debate. There are 3 people interested in this and 40 people who aren't.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:34 PM
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Not much of a debate. There are 3 people interested in this and 40 people who aren't.

Oh crap. More argumentum ad populum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

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In logic, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is: "If many believe so, it is so."
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:38 PM
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I Hope MBAM has the Facebook rogue definition updates,just in case it shows up here.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:40 PM
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well..well looks like you wont see a face book anytime soon
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:41 PM
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Yay, 4 votes. We are almost 10% now, lol.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:43 PM
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Thats it, going to get the garlic and holly water out.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:44 PM
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:51 PM
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Oh crap. More argumentum ad populum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
Wrong. The proposition is that Wilders would benefit from a Facebook page that users can use. The vast majority of users do not want it. The two are inherently tied.

edit: Example of what that would actually be: the majority of americans don't believe in evolution, therefor evolution isn't true.

What this situation is: the majority of wilders users don't want a feature, therefor the feature is a bad idea.

The difference being that a "feature" is by definition made to enhance user experience (a user poll being proof of this) and therefor your wikipedia article is irrelevant.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:53 PM
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Wrong. The proposition is that Wilders would benefit from a Facebook page that users can use. The vast majority of users do not want it. The two are inherently tied.

Such understanding is ignoring the wealth of new users that may join.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 09:56 PM
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We're on the front page for a google "security forum" or DDG or whatever. If someone wants a place to discuss security they'll find it quickly.

Having 4 users talking on a Facebook page is hardly going to attract anyone.

I just don't see any benefits.
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well..well looks like you wont see a face book anytime soon
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We're on the front page for a google "security forum" or DDG or whatever. If someone wants a place to discuss security they'll find it quickly.

Having 4 users talking on a Facebook page is hardly going to attract anyone.

I just don't see any benefits.

People are increasingly using Facebook more than they use Google or other search engines.

The benefit may be limited to those who also participate in Facebook, but there is no injury to those who don't.

As I said before, you can simply stay away from it.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 10:00 PM
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But still, the probability of new users because of a Facebook page of Wilders is still very low. Majority Facebook users just don't really care about privacy or security. Many of them will allow applications to access their private information without even researching if that app is legit. They don't even use the privacy features of Facebook, and when Facebook started to support the use of HTTPS, they are not using it because their games, applications, etc. won't work.

The second point is who is going to administer the page? It would be time consuming for something with very little gain.
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A tiny minority in an universe of almost a billion persons (that's the Facebook user base, almost 1000000000 users) may have high chances of being pretty relevant.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 10:10 PM
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As for who would administer, that's the hard question.

I'm not a volunteer for such task, lol.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Folks,

Speaking just on my behalf, but also as one of the first members of this board, I strongly oppose against a Facebook page for the forum. It will create a "parallel forum universe". That is, in my opinion, not something we would want.

Also, may I please ask not to call persons, who oppose against a Facebook page, being a "Xenophobe".
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Also, may I please ask not to call persons, who oppose against a Facebook page, being a "Xenophobe".

It was just a joke. Look at the link.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 10:13 PM
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Well, the decision to add a page or not, isn't really with any vote occurring here. As such, thread closed.
 

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