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Old April 1st, 2012, 04:39 PM
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I had an ASUS G73Sw 1 month back which had an i7 2.0/2.9 Ghz. Sandy Bridge and it used to get 7.4 in the Windows Index Experience score

I returned that notebook because it was full of problems and the screen die within one month...

So I got a Toshiba L750 with a faster CPU which is an i7 Sandy Bridge running @ 2.2 Ghz. / 3.10 Ghz.

But to my surprise, the WEI score of the CPU components is 7.2. I tried running the test a few times but it didn't change.

One thing I noticed that may seem to affect the score is that when the CPU test is running, I notice in the Turbo Boost Monitor that the CPU isn't throttling to full speed and it is staying @ 2.2. Ghz. but during other tests of WEI it does go up to 2.8 - 3 Ghz.

What gives? I know I could probably run a program called Throttle stop and have the score higher but shouldn't it throttle to full speed as this is a CPU test?

I know some Notebook have a problem in the BIOS that causes this but during my app usage I have no problems with throttling as the CPU does jump up to 2.8 / 3 GHz. when I load any application so the Turbo Boost is kicking in but why not in that WEI test?

Any suggestions guys?

Thanks

PS: I am running the latest BIOS from Toshiba v3.10
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Old April 1st, 2012, 04:43 PM
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Just because cpu is faster does not mean higher wei score. It is a combination of various components and your previous laptop appears slightly better in score term

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...perience-Index
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Old April 1st, 2012, 04:46 PM
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My suggestion is to ignore WEI entirely. It is not a typical benchmark and it's really only meant to give an idea as to how well a computer might run Windows. Changes in certain areas won't effect scores at all whereas changes in other areas can completely change it.
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My suggestion is to ignore WEI entirely. It is not a typical benchmark and it's really only meant to give an idea as to how well a computer might run Windows. Changes in certain areas won't effect scores at all whereas changes in other areas can completely change it.
I understand, thank you
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 10:22 AM
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Here are the results before running the test with ThrottleStop:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...itel750wei.png

And here are the results with ThrottleStop running:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3...itel750wei.png

Now my question is, is it ok to keep Throttle Stop running 100% of the time or would that harm my CPU that it is running at max speed all the time? My current temp with Throttle Stop is 69C to 73C, is that ok? Will this harm my CPU in the long run or was it designed to run like this anyway?

I feel the table near the fan on the side of the notebook is very hot. I dont know if that is safe or not or am I slowly frying my CPU
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Now my question is, is it ok to keep Throttle Stop running 100% of the time or would that harm my CPU that it is running at max speed all the time? My current temp with Throttle Stop is 69C to 73C, is that ok? Will this harm my CPU in the long run or was it designed to run like this anyway?

seems a recurring question
www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=321101
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You'll see no performance gain, just a ton of empty cycles. Balanced actually outbenchmarks High Performance over long periods of time due to heat.

Let your CPU handle your CPU, don't mess with it with 3rd party stuff.
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You'll see no performance gain, just a ton of empty cycles. Balanced actually outbenchmarks High Performance over long periods of time due to heat.

Let your CPU handle your CPU, don't mess with it with 3rd party stuff.

And so I shall do, thanks
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 03:26 PM
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Here is a reply from Throttle Stop developer:

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ThrottleStop does not force your CPU to run at full speed all the time. When most CPUs are lightly loaded or idle, it makes very little difference whether ThrottleStop is running or not. If you open up the Windows Resource Monitor while ThrottleStop is minimized to the System Tray, you will barely notice the load it is putting on your CPU.

Intel designs their CPUs to run reliably at up to 100C, 24/7. Running a CPU at a peak core temperature of 73C is a walk in the park for any modern CPU and that temperature is not going to hurt anything. By the time your CPU dies 25 or 50 years from now, I think you will have moved on by then so no worries.

When a CPU is fully loaded and all cores are active such as during a stress test, the amount of turbo boost is reduced. That's how Intel designs these CPUs and that's probably what the Intel gadget is telling you.

The Intel gadget looks nice but if you want a thorough record of your CPU's performance while benchmark testing, run ThrottleStop with the Log File option checked. Copy and Paste your Log File to www.pastebin.com or similar and then post a link here and I will have a look at it for you.

Edit: I noticed this same question posted on the Wilders Security Forums. All I learned over there is that some people have no idea how a modern Core i mobile CPU actually works internally. You can set the minimum processor state to 100% and use ThrottleStop and then click on the C State button in ThrottleStop to see what your CPU is really doing. When properly setup, Core i CPUs spend the majority of their idle time in one of the deeper sleep states regardless of how you have Windows setup or if you are using ThrottleStop or not.

Interesting....
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