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Old December 5th, 2007, 09:51 AM
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Guys, do I remember reading somewhere that FirstDefense if not compatible with the more recent versions of PowerShadow, or was that another software that I'm thinking of?

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Old December 5th, 2007, 11:02 AM
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Guys, do I remember reading somewhere that FirstDefense if not compatible with the more recent versions of PowerShadow, or was that another software that I'm thinking of?

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I stopped with combining FDISR and any other ISR-software. They are not fully compatible with FDISR. It's nothing serious, but it's inconvenient compared with a frozen snapshot. If you don't mind that kind of inconvenience, than you can combine FDISR with any other ISR-software, like Returnil, PowerShadow, ShadowDefender, DeepFreeze, etc. ...

Booting from one snapshot to another isn't the same anymore when you combine FDISR with another ISR-software and that is a problem for me. All the rest is working properly.
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Guys, do I remember reading somewhere that FirstDefense if not compatible with the more recent versions of PowerShadow, or was that another software that I'm thinking of?

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Hi Acadia

I have had no problems with FDISR and either Returnil or Shadowdefender. Never tried Powershadow. Note though I never do anything with FDISR, without first leaving the shadow modes of either software. Then no problems.

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Old December 5th, 2007, 12:43 PM
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Note though I never do anything with FDISR, without first leaving the shadow modes of either software. Then no problems.
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That is exactly the problem, you have to turn off the protection.
I don't have to unfreeze to boot to another snapshot.
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That is exactly the problem, you have to turn off the protection.
I don't have to unfreeze to boot to another snapshot.

Yep, I just use stuff differently so it works for me. Honestly I think you are in pretty good shape.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 03:21 PM
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Yep, I just use stuff differently so it works for me. Honestly I think you are in pretty good shape.
I understand, if you turn OFF the frozen mode, the function "Boot To Snapshot" will function normally. I tested this myself with Returnil.
If you don't turn it OFF, you have to wait for the F1-key to boot in another snapshot and that is really inconvenient.
I guess you use Returnil only, when you need it, while my frozen mode is always ON.
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Old December 6th, 2007, 12:53 AM
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The latest version of powershadow workstation is not compatible with fd-isr or rollback rx. I found this out from personal testing, there is a conflict with the boot menu's even if you disable the powershadow one.
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Old December 6th, 2007, 01:51 AM
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The latest version of powershadow workstation is not compatible with fd-isr or rollback rx. I found this out from personal testing, there is a conflict with the boot menu's even if you disable the powershadow one.
When two softwares do a similar job, I'm not surprised by possible conflicts sooner or later. HDS also adviced not to use FDISR and RBRx together.
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thanks, farmerlee, I'm now leaning toward SandboxIE anyway, but your warning helps to seal it.

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Sandboxie is an excellent choice, but I 've never had any issues with either Returnil or Shadowdefender. I've never tried Power Shadhow.
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Peter, I am looking for something that I can "turn on and off" without rebooting. I know that Sandboxie can do that, but I believe that Returnil needs to reboot, correct? I know nothing about Shadowdefender. Thanks.

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Old December 6th, 2007, 11:32 AM
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Have a look at altiris software virtualization solution. It allows you to revert changes without needing to reboot. Its free for personal use too.
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Altiris is a great choice. I use Kmeleon for my browser and run it in Altiris, along with a large number of other programs of different types. Altiris will NOT protect against viruses, etc and it isn't designed to.
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