Can TI 10 auto shut down the computer?

[labromaniac]

Hi Yall,

I have read the full user guide, the FAQs, and the beginner tutorials, but can't seem to find a definitive answer to this. Can the Acronis TI 10 Home program shut down the computer at the end of a task so that I can run it as I go to bed and not have my computer left on all night long?

Thanks for your continuing help. So far everything is going just great with the board's guidance and materials and my first full backup went super!

[foghorne]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Hi Yall,

I have read the full user guide, the FAQs, and the beginner tutorials, but can't seem to find a definitive answer to this. Can the Acronis TI 10 Home program shut down the computer at the end of a task so that I can run it as I go to bed and not have my computer left on all night long?

Thanks for your continuing help. So far everything is going just great with the board's guidance and materials and my first full backup went super!

I think you can possibly work around this by using the shutdown command as a TI post-command. This works OK on XP, but I have not tried it on Vista.

shutdown -s -f

F.

[thomasjk]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Hi Yall,

I have read the full user guide, the FAQs, and the beginner tutorials, but can't seem to find a definitive answer to this. Can the Acronis TI 10 Home program shut down the computer at the end of a task so that I can run it as I go to bed and not have my computer left on all night long?

Thanks for your continuing help. So far everything is going just great with the board's guidance and materials and my first full backup went super!

I run a scheduled task with TI9 B3677 that shuts down the computer after the backup is complete. TI 10 should be able to do this also. No batch files are needed. The shutdown choice is available in the schedule menu when you create the task. Use the scheduled task wizard.

[foghorne]

Originally Posted by thomasjk

I run a scheduled task with TI9 B3677 that shuts down the computer after the backup is complete. TI 10 should be able to do this also. No batch files are needed. The shutdown choice is available in the schedule menu when you create the task. Use the scheduled task wizard.

Although according to the user guides (for both 9 & 10) the schedule is triggered when the OS attempts to shutdown "the task will be executed before every computer shutdown or reboot". This seems different to shutting down after finishing backing up. Are you saying this feature does not work as advertised, or am I missing another option somewhere ?

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[labromaniac]

Just made a scheduled task and while i found that there was a section for adding pre and post task commands, the menus for these commands were blank. Therefore it seems that there are no standard application commands such as "shut down computer after backup is finished" to use. I suppose there is someway to write your own commands, but this is way beyond my computer ability.

So looks like to me that Acronis 10.0 Home DOES NOT have the built-in ability to shut down the computer. Too bad......

[DwnNdrty]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Just made a scheduled task and while i found that there was a section for adding pre and post task commands, the menus for these commands were blank. Therefore it seems that there are no standard application commands such as "shut down computer after backup is finished" to use. I suppose there is someway to write your own commands, but this is way beyond my computer ability.

So looks like to me that Acronis 10.0 Home DOES NOT have the built-in ability to shut down the computer. Too bad......

If you can estimate the time the backup will take, add, say an hour to it and use a standard ON/OFF timer to plug the computer into and set it to shut off the computer at the appropriate time.

[thomasjk]

Originally Posted by foghorne

Although according to the user guides (for both 9 & 10) the schedule is triggered when the OS attempts to shutdown "the task will be executed before every computer shutdown or reboot". This seems different to shutting down after finishing backing up. Are you saying this feature does not work as advertised, or am I missing another option somewhere ?

F.

It works at shutdown. Clicking Start--->Turn Off Computer--->Shutdown or Restart triggers the scheduled task to run. I used the scheduled task wizard at the bottom of the Acronis Window to do this. My computer is always off in the morning.

[foghorne]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Just made a scheduled task and while i found that there was a section for adding pre and post task commands, the menus for these commands were blank. Therefore it seems that there are no standard application commands such as "shut down computer after backup is finished" to use. I suppose there is someway to write your own commands, but this is way beyond my computer ability.

So looks like to me that Acronis 10.0 Home DOES NOT have the built-in ability to shut down the computer. Too bad......

No but see post #2. Easily doable.

F.

[foghorne]

Originally Posted by thomasjk

It works at shutdown. Clicking Start--->Turn Off Computer--->Shutdown or Restart triggers the scheduled task to run. I used the scheduled task wizard at the bottom of the Acronis Window to do this. My computer is always off in the morning.

I think that was my point. It was you who were manually triggering the shutdown - it is just that ATI inserts a backup operation before it gets done.

The original post (as I understood it) was asking it was possible to schedule a backup task to run (say) at midnight, and then have ATI shut the computer down afterwards. I see this as being different to what you are doing.

F.

[thomasjk]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Hi Yall,

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Foghorne, he didn't ask for a specific time to run so my solution accomplishes what he wants. He could also try using windows scheduled tasks. I think I've seen posts in here where folks have tried that also.

[foghorne]

Originally Posted by thomasjk

Foghorne, he didn't ask for a specific time to run so my solution accomplishes what he wants. He could also try using windows scheduled tasks. I think I've seen posts in here where folks have tried that also.

No he didn't mention a specific time you are right. My original interpretation was based on him wanting to have all this done whilst he is in bed. After a reread I accept that your proposal does fit.

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[labromaniac]

Thanks guys! Great set of posts. I now see that the option of picking "when my computer shuts down" exists. I will have to give that a try, but as brought up in this thread, it WOULD be a great thing to be able to schedule it too at a set time. I do turn my computer on and off a few times a day and wouldn't want it to do a back up everytime. So scheduling it would be great.

Hmmmm, have to play around! Thanks for continuing to help me!!!

[thomasjk]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Thanks guys! Great set of posts. I now see that the option of picking "when my computer shuts down" exists. I will have to give that a try, but as brought up in this thread, it WOULD be a great thing to be able to schedule it too at a set time. I do turn my computer on and off a few times a day and wouldn't want it to do a back up everytime. So scheduling it would be great.

Hmmmm, have to play around! Thanks for continuing to help me!!!

Well you can always cancel the job as soon as it pops up when restarting, thats what I do. You will need to use windows scheduled tasks to run at a specified time. See this thread http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showt...task+scheduler.
The other option is to just run a TI scheduled task at a specific time which is what I use for my laptop. I run it when I don't plan to be using the machine, like dinner time.

[labromaniac]

Good point.

[thfrank]

Originally Posted by labromaniac

Can the Acronis TI 10 Home program shut down the computer at the end of a task so that I can run it as I go to bed and not have my computer left on all night long?

I think the simple answer is "No" which I also find very unfortunate. In the options, there should be button "shutdown after backup is complete". The "shutdown" command has never worked for me.

A backup scheduled at windows shut down is a something conpletely different (it would run a backup at EVERY shutdown).

Thomas

[thomasjk]

Originally Posted by thfrank

I think the simple answer is "No" which I also find very unfortunate. In the options, there should be button "shutdown after backup is complete". The "shutdown" command has never worked for me.

A backup scheduled at windows shut down is a something conpletely different (it would run a backup at EVERY shutdown).

Thomas

You also have the option in a schedlued task of only running the backup once a day.

[Slaycock]

Try

c:\windows\system32\shutdown -s -f -t 120

as a post processing command where the -s -f -t 120 are the command line arguments

and

c:\windows\system32\

is the working directory


Works well on my machine to shutdown the PC after an unattended backup that runs at 2am.

Regards

Steve

[bigliam1970]

Originally Posted by DwnNdrty

If you can estimate the time the backup will take, add, say an hour to it and use a standard ON/OFF timer to plug the computer into and set it to shut off the computer at the appropriate time.

Jesus H Christ..

DwnNdrty aka rdkulus... I have checked out some of your posts my friend, including the lame answer to a question I posted fairly recently.

Do us a favour, if this is the kind of advice you give on the this forum then don't bother.

Using a timer switch to shut down a computer is almost definitely gonna trash your hard disk in the long run causing this user more problems he had in the first place. Please please be more careful in offering 'advice' like that.

Sorry dude but you need to steer clear of forums if you're not exactly sure of what you're talking about.

People like you make me mad..

[thomasjk]

Originally Posted by bigliam1970

Jesus H Christ..

DwnNdrty aka rdkulus... I have checked out some of your posts my friend, including the lame answer to a question I posted fairly recently.

Do us a favour, if this is the kind of advice you give on the this forum then don't bother.

Using a timer switch to shut down a computer is almost definitely gonna trash your hard disk in the long run causing this user more problems he had in the first place. Please please be more careful in offering 'advice' like that.

Sorry dude but you need to steer clear of forums if you're not exactly sure of what you're talking about.

People like you make me mad..

Why don't you tell us how you really feel.

[thfrank]

Originally Posted by Slaycock

Try

c:\windows\system32\shutdown -s -f -t 120

as a post processing command where the -s -f -t 120 are the command line arguments

Steve

will try. what does -t 120 do?

Thanks
Thomas

[MudCrab]

If you open Windows Help & Support (in XP) and search for "shutdown command" this info will come up.

In this case, -t 120 is making the computer wait 2 minutes before shutting down.

Shutdown - Allows you to shut down or restart a local or remote computer. Used without parameters, shutdown will logoff the current user.

Syntax:
shutdown [{-l|-s|-r|-a}] [-f] [-m [\\ComputerName]] [-t xx] [-c "message"] [-d[u][p]:xx:yy]

Parameters
-l Logs off the current user, this is also the defualt. -m ComputerName takes precedence.
-s Shuts down the local computer.
-r Reboots after shutdown.
-a Aborts shutdown. Ignores other parameters, except -l and ComputerName. You can only use -a during the time-out period.
-f Forces running applications to close.
-m [\\ComputerName]
Specifies the computer that you want to shut down.
-t xx Sets the timer for system shutdown in xx seconds. The default is 20 seconds.
-c "message"
Specifies a message to be displayed in the Message area of the System Shutdown window. You can use a maximum of 127 characters. You must enclose the message in quotation marks.
-d [u][p]:xx:yy Lists the reason code for the shutdown. The following table lists the different values.

[thfrank]

Originally Posted by Slaycock

Try
c:\windows\system32\shutdown -s -f -t 120
Steve

Works great! Thank you.

[foghorne]

Originally Posted by thfrank

Works great! Thank you.

What a long way we have come since post #2

F.

[Slaycock]

You're welcome. And thanks to Mudcrab for providing the explanation for -t 120. I meant to do it but forgot.

The reason I include the -t 120 is that sometimes TI messes up and I run the backup manually. The -t 120 gives you time to open a command line window and abort the shutdown process (using shutdown -a) if you so wish.


Regards

Steve