there is progress but can not continue it looks like my windows installer is corrupt, i will try to download another file, i will let you know again when i got the file i need
I'm trying to install Win7 again. I've never succeeded in the past. I'm stuck on the Starting Windows screen with the 4 coloured squares. Seen about a minute after the UFD boots.
I've given up installing Win7 in UEFI mode. I tried USB 3 and 2 ports. Then tried a DVD. It always freezes on the Starting Windows screen. Not long after the Win7 media boots.
Hi everyone, I know it is a relatively old thread, but the topic may be (hopefully) interesting the same, not to mention the fact that I saw a lot of knowledge in both the above and previous replies. I just purchased (my fault) BootIt UEFI just to discover that it can't boot a MBR partition. However, from the many replies I've read here I think (really, I hope) that a way, a workaround may exist, if only because the program appears very complex thanks to the many settings. Many thanks in advance for any guidance. Edited to add further infos. I would like to boot 3 OS partitions (Windows) with the boot manager: 2 GPT and 1 MBR. I managed to make them hidden from each other, but not to boot the MBR one. The settings in BIOS are Legacy & UEFI (CSM). I read this post here https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/bootit-uefi.405427/page-6#post-2796916 and I was wondering if there were any settings to do something like this workaround to boot an OS partition MBR. Thanks.
logon, BIBM and BIU were combined into "BootIt Collection" 6 years ago. I don't think you can buy a standalone BIU. Try this... double click makedisk.exe select PC Platform (BIOS) BootIt Bare Metal etc If you don't have these options, contact TeraByte Support. Let us know what eventuates and we can address your other questions. Can I enquire why you want to boot a MBR OS?
Hi Brian K, And thank you for you reply. Yes, I purchased the entire collection package including BIBM, but I din't realize if you mean that I could install (if I wanted) both boot managers? I would be curious to know about this possibility even if I tend to favor simplicity. However, after several years of Windows 7 I switched to Windows 10 and performed the first installation on an MBR HDD. I switched to SSDs only a few months ago and only because using Windows 10 on an HDD is exasperatingly slow. It goes without saying that I find Windows 10 running on SSD just appears absolutely awesome compared to HDD. There is no technical reason, but perhaps just "tradition" (and reliability) and curiosity for both experimenting and learning. Anyway, since as said simplicity is my first goal I think I will also convert the Windows HDD MBR to GPT style because it doesn't seem to make any sense to keep both anymore. Thanks again for your appreciated reply.
logon, I had BIU on one drive and BIBM on another (MBR disk) so I could boot OS on each drive. I found it clunky and after a few hours I uninstalled BIBM. For simplicity I'd convert your MBR disk to GPT with chgdtype.tbs in BIU. From the Run icon. See... https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/k...-or-mbr-to-gpt-using-the-chgdtype-tbs-script/ You should delete the EFI System Partition that has been created on that drive. Having 2 ESPs can cause problems. Boot BIU and click Scripting CD \EFI DIR You will see all your Microsoft.xxx folders. Say Microsoft.001 and Microsoft.002 are in use. We'll create Microsoft.003 for the "new" OS. MD Microsoft.003 CD Microsoft.003 copy ..\Microsoft.001\* /s exit Reboot the computer Boot Edit Add Set up a Boot Item for the OS. Make sure the "Rename Directory" option is enabled. Do a BCD Edit on Microsoft.003 ( Partition Work, ESP, BCD Edit, \EFI\Microsoft.003\BOOT\BCD ) https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/kb-articles/how-to-use-the-bcd-edit-feature-of-bootit-bm/ This references BIBM but it's the same procedure in BIU. Use the GPT choices. Now you should have 3 bootable OS. Questions? You can now disable CSM. It's no longer needed.
Yep, it's exactly what I imagined. My preference is for convert from MBR to GPT running a reliable partition manager program, I've already done it flawlessly. No doubt about that. Even if it's a bit off topic, I had fun creating an ESP partition (obviously deleting the pre-existing one) in the final part of the disk to see if Shadow Defender would stop making it shadowed without having asked for that, but it didn't work because it continued to do so. I think not, thanks: I'm sure that it will be like this (If not, I will definitely come back here) even without carrying out the manual procedure relating to the "Microsoft.00x" folders because as mentioned I had already managed to boot from each GPT partition (excluded the MBR one, of course) hiding the other ones. I think I will keep the "CSM" option in the BIOS since I have some UFDs formatted in MBR style (and other ones as GPT) from which I boot (among other things) WinPE and VHDs. Thank you so very much!
Brian K, Everything is fine with BIU, thank you! I actually had some small issues that I couldn't explain related to a beloved restore-on-reboot program, but nothing transcendental and in any case something from which I also learned something else, as often happens. ;-)
Hi Brian K, I just realized that I forgot I mentioned Shadow Defender here too so I'll give a brief summary of my findings. I installed BootIt UEFI on the disk and this in other words obviously means in the ESP partition. Starting with setting up BootIt UEFI I then noticed that something wasn't working as it should. After a few unsuccessful (in the sense that the settings on BootIt UEFI were inexplicably lost at each reboot, but please note that I didn't know the BootIt UEFI program at all and therefore I didn't know if I was doing something wrong) reboots I investigated and discovered that when you choose to put the OS partition in shadow-mode then Shadow Defender also puts the ESP partition in shadow-mode at the same time, but without giving notice. Those who are not familiar with the Shadow Defender program should know that it restores the current state of a partition at each reboot. Then if you have installed BootIT UEFI on the disk (that's in the ESP partition) you will easily realize that if upon reboot Shadow defender restores the current state (that's the one before your changes, that's before your settings on BootIt UEFI) of the ESP partition and you don't know it, you will soon start to thinking that there is something wrong either with you yourself, or with BootIt UEFI program or with somewhere else. After finding the above it is easy to conclude that just exit the OS partition from shadow-mode and then the ESP partition will also exit from shadow-mode so that you can make your settings without being driven mad. But I don't want to leave the OS partition out of shadow-mode. I want to exit shadow-mode the ESP partition only. So I found a workaround to keep the OS partition in shadow-mode, but not the ESP one. It's enough to change the ESP partition type ID from "System" to "Data" running the free version of DiskGenius. This way your OS will continue to boot regularly, and you will be able to set up BootIt UEFI as best as possible without any hassle. When you have finished your settings in BootIt UEFI and are satisfied with them, you can restore the partition type ID of your ESP partition to its original state so that Shadow Defender will also bring her back to shadow-mode and you will be done. Please note that in order to restore the ESP partition in shadow-mode you've to "Exit All Shadow Modes" once and then "Enter Shadow Mode" the OS partition again. Much faster to do it than to describe it.
Nice. Very clever. If you ever want to do it in BIU it is... Partition Work, select the ESP, Properties, Type, Normal Data.
Thank you for your appreciated addressing, maybe it will save a bit of work. With this now it unexpectedly seems to me that spending those 45 bucks on BIU was finally worth it! :-D
BootIt is my favourite software. I use it on UEFI and MBR systems. My main computers are UEFI. You can have IFL, TBWinRE or most WinPEs on a SSD partition, booting from BootIt. Booting is much faster than from a UFD. You can automate backups/ restores if you desire.
I will take your suggestions into account, and I'll delve further into the features of the software package. Perhaps the software is so full of settings that at first glance it appears not very intuitive, at least here. However, I believe it is also a characteristic of the designer and everyone puts their own mental shape into the GUI as well. Let's say that it seems very effective, but with a steep learning curve, in my opinion. I already appreciated IFL and really enjoyed it.
@Brian K I had glossed over it before, but now I want to thank you, even if belatedly, for your kind compliment on the described workaround: very appreciated, thank you so much.
I mentioned booting IFL on a SSD... This procedure can be used with most bootable UFDs to boot the item from your internal drive. Unless you need Networking with IFL, use the "No net" GUI version. It boots a little faster. When you create the UFD from makedisk.exe, select "Traditional - You have control over options. (Custom)" Insert the IFL UFD. In BIU, select Disk Imaging. Copy. Physical Drive. Select the USB drive. Put a tick in the IFL partition box. NOT THE Drive box. The Drive box should be empty. Physical Drive. Choose the Target Drive. Select the Free Space for the Copy. (You could have previously created Free Space in Partition Work by resizing a partition smaller. But you can use any large amount of Free Space if it's available) You are now on the Options window. Just accept the default Options. In the Resize Partition field, multiply Min by 1.33 and enter this number in New. This will result in an IFL partition with about 25% Free Space. New Name, you can leave it blank or use a creative name. Start. Remove the UFD. Back on the BIU desktop. Select Boot Edit. Add. Identity, IFL. Select the HD number containing the IFL partition. Boot, select the IFL partition. Boot File, browse to efi\boot\grubx64.efi. (This is the efi folder in the IFL partition) OK, OK again. Restart. (If you find the mouse is slow at times in the above process, press Enter on the highlighted choice) Back on the BIU desktop. Select Resume, your IFL Boot Item, Boot. Booting from a SSD partition is much faster than booting from a UFD. Edit... to boot a WinPE, the Boot File is efi\boot\bootx64.efi.
Interesting, I will try your flawless procedure soon on a certain PC. However, since everyone has their own preferences, sometimes even apparently illogical, I prefer to have the ISO files (WinPE included) on a USB stick (a couple of really fast SanDisk) and boot them through "boot4dos" (version 0.4.6a-2020-02-29 ) used as a file and not installed on disk. I also did the same with IFL by creating the ISO file running "makedisk" and then copying it to the UFD. Thanks for the tip about adding the "nonet" parameter, I really wanted that: does it fit here? I've been using IFL successfully (and with pleasure) since I changed the File Manager on my WinPE 5.0 (x86) from FreeCommander to Explorer++ as the latter somehow "use" the OS partition and IFW (which I am currently trying) was unable to lock it even through PHYLock except by forcing dismount. After realizing that Explorer++ could be the culprit (because it is very similar to Windows Explorer, and in that case perhaps even too much) I solved it by making the partition backups running IFL. Recently, I thought that using a different file manager it would have behaved differently and soon I thought of Macrium PE Explorer (which actually runs in the first instance instead of Explorer++ from WinPE, the latter runs in the second instance as soon as you quit the first one) and I solved it this way because Macrium PE Explorer (which was designed specifically for the PE environment and which is pretty simple, but here's a plus) does seem not to "use" the OS partition.
Here is your TeraByte Unlimited download page... https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/product-download.php In the IFL section... I use the x64 no net GUI version. When you get a chance, check out TeraByte Explorer (also called tbexplo.tbs). It's in the Run menu of BIU and BIBM. Also in IFW and IFL. It's designed for TeraByte products as it can access files and folders in the ESP as well as hidden and system files in other partitions. Use the F1 menu for Help.
Brian K, Thanks for your interesting information which I will definitely follow. By the way, one thing I haven't gotten used to yet is the way TeraByte uses extensively acronyms and similar ones, which personally disorientates me a bit. And instead their programs is full of resources and they are also incredibly light for what they are able to do.
@Brian K I just downloaded recent version 2.0 of BootIt Collection following the address you provided above (thanks!), but the webpage seems different from the one you posted...
logon, That looks ok for the BootIt Collection. Did you see this? https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/k...kup-and-restore-suite-v3-upgrade-information/ I think you have TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite but it isn't showing on your screenshot. Check that. The Suite and BootIt Collection attract the same discount. Edit... Your screenshot does look different from mine.
