Windows 11 leak reveals new UI, Start menu, and more (Discussion)

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Jun 15, 2021.

  1. JRViejo

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  2. NormanF

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    The only change is a new kernel requirement for POPCNT with 24H2, an obscure instruction set introduced back in the 1960s. If you're going to do a future periodic review, you should look at Explorer Patcher. It helps to tame the huge shaggy beast called Windows 11 to a more sane set of defaults. Don't know how I lived without it.
     
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    Start menu looks pretty much as usual in 24H2, tho I do not use it. I use startmenux.
     
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    with 23H2 MS wants to implement copilot and other ai crap for all. there exist no other reason.
     
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    https://www.xda-developers.com/death-android-apps-windows-shows-dont-want-phones-on-pc/

    I wonder, did anyone actually use this feature? And I wonder why Google didn't want it to become a success.
     
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    The answer is simple - on the classic pc desktop, touch-based apps are inferior to classic mouse-n-keyboard-designed programs.
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    No. Did it ever actually work correctly? I guess it doesn't matter now...
     
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    How to make Windows 11 more usable, less annoying

    Please don't read this article. Well, only if you really must. Anyway, here's a mega-ultra-long, detailed, thorough guide on how to make Windows 11 less annoying, more productive and more ergonomic, with numerous changes and tweaks focused on privacy, security and usability, including reasons not to use Windows 11, pros and cons compared to earlier versions of Windows, tools needed before installation, USB media creation, how to skip online account creation, post-install questions, autoplay configuration, personalization, Firefox as default browser, app startup, offline maps, account sign-in options, time and language, gaming, entire privacy and security section in Settings - general, diagnostics and feedback, inking and typing, activity history, search permissions, and resource access, unnecessary services, cloud search, use of Winaero Tweaker to remove various options and features, Copilot, unnecessary apps, use of winget and Powershell to remove apps, Microsoft Edge removal, Open-Shell start menu alternative, autostart entries via Autoruns, optional removal of Windows Defender, optional configuration of Windows Update, Windows Explorer and taskbar tweaks, some other recommendations, and more. All that said, you're better off with Windows 10, or Linux, or something. But there. Enjoy.

    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-11-usability-guide.html


    Cheers,
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    There are two other items that will tame the unruly beast called Windows 11: Nilesoft Shell will restore the sane Windows 10 context menu eliminating the redundant more menu and Explorer Patcher will bring back the sane Windows 10 taskbar. Now Windows 11 will behave like Windows 10 without sacrificing its improvements. You want Windows 11 to be of service without getting it in your way.
     
  12. Mrkvonic

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    I don't think there are any improvements, though.
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    idd, i do not read text where the only target is to blame windows 11. and where heavy intruding tools were promoted. windows 11 - take it, or leave it. very simple.
     
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    Depends on your needs. That may be true for you. I do like the option of having DoH and it does seem to work better when using higher than 100% scaling on a 4k screen. That said the Start Menu, context menus, and File Explorer all suck.
     
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    DoH? DNS over HTTPS?
    Altering the start menu or using another file explorer is not messing with windows (i use d-opus for quite a while now, after XYplorer). its this nonsense with eg massive removing apps or explorerpatcher. in special with the explorerpatcher its a cat and mouse race, user still need the latest patcher. and regular users are very limited when it comes to failure. looking at the winre update (...441) is only one example.

    to clarify - i have also removed apps from the app list in windows, the official way to go. but edge - it does not bother me. and the latest european rights changes allow us to uninstall or set another browser for default were at least was denied. i dont know for usa or other countries.
    to tell - i do still working like i did in xp or windows 7, but only on newer machines and up-to-date software. i use some (a hand full = 5 fingers) reg-tweaks, the same i used to use in windows 7. and windows 10/11 is running as expected, no flaws, nothing to bother.

    yes, it depends on my needs - and ofc a reduced to the max windows is welcome all times, windows 12 should it be. and yes, windows 11 changed some of my experience, and i am not sure if i am willing to pay extended support for win10. this is tied to an ms account and used from windows. currently i have such account, but its limited to edge sync and ms office (because of edge). and i am not going back to the stupid LTSC version which is 3 years outdated for features and due this not that secure as my pro.
     
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    Yes, that is correct.
     
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    Current Edge can do DoH - so any current chromium based (if not messed up in a stupid fork). But what browser ever, you must trust the targeted resolver. for me i have disabled the other dns server feature in gpo, for edge. In firefox i do not use DoH, my dns resolver is set in my router.
     
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    True, but in Windows 11 I'm not limited to just browsers, all programs will use DoH. I have no issues using Cloudflare or Quad9. Google DNS supports it as well. I'm more interested in the security aspect than privacy. There is no privacy.
     
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    DoH server depends on your expectation - damn, seems i lost my secondary DNS in time, no quad9, nor quad8 or quad1.
    some of those block different IP, if you use several devices it can help, for me i prefer different systems although those are configured same way for this. for me my secondary (means=fall back) DNS was one of those for the same reason you use them. anyhow DNS need to be fast because caching memory is limited, in router and windows, and a lot in browser with DoH.
    for firefox: about:networking#dns - also show something about TRR (=DoH) and its resolver.
     
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    Windows 11 won't boot if the processor does not support SSE 4.2
    https://www.ghacks.net/2024/04/23/w...-if-the-pc-does-not-support-this-cpu-feature/
     
  23. Brummelchen

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    thats known, also in this forum. you can install it, but not run it.
     
  24. Mrkvonic

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    To be fair, that really goes for processors that are ~13-14 years old.
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    Windows 11 Start menu ads are now rolling out to everyone
     
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