Windows 10 Privacy

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Fox Mulder, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. EASTER

    EASTER Registered Member

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    Thanks. Good article.

    True enough but why do they find more avenues to funnel yet more "disruptions" to have to disable and turn off? That list keeps growing. :thumbd:
     
  2. driekus

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    The stooping lower comes from the fact "Settings > Personalization > Lock Screen and uncheck the box that reads “Get fun facts, tips, tricks, and more on your lock screen" is not really an intuitive location for disabling ads. I turned my gaming PC back to Windows 7 from Windows 10. This is complete BS and not acceptable.
     
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    At some point like is been mentioned, how do you not know that they will eventually restore the setting again if it's detected to be 0ff or simply reset it again on a windows updates whether on or 0ff.

    More MS goodies yet to come. Just how much longer before the "FREE" Windows 10 upgrade ends? and it then becomes a requirement to purchase this commercialized peeping tom OS system
     
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    I don't even have that setting on my machines.
     
  5. EASTER

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    I dunno. MS used to be really good at rolling out these platforms as (as I consider them) great base framework systems from which (with third-party tools, commercial or open source) the end user and/or business client could add and greatly build on improving security and automations (for me customizations!) and made for some interest in looking forward each and every new release.

    But, it's like MS now is turning into some form of a dictatorship with Win 10 as in take this OS and like it whether you want to or not. If not, we'll exercise all efforts to force it on you privacy concerns "AND AN ADS BILLBOARD" LoL or not.

    And we all thought it was discouraging when tiles/store was introduced in Windows 8? Man I am loving Windows 8 now even better than the devotion for Windows XP that this camp relied on for a long long time. (Note: I skipped 7 but it's amazing the droves that are flocking back to it lately AGAIN)
     
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    No matter what you complain about the OS, it's well done. It works well even on older hardware and the stats truly showing that people switching to it. The rest (without any real proof) is just FUD. Makes also less sense to post links you never tested yourself, as said I never had one of the 'telemetry' hosts connected in my entire Win 10 Era. I bet only a half of people which linking to this over and over understand that this is useless if e.g. dnsapi.dll can bypass this, and I never (except myself) saw someone which provided deep-package inspection. Also a lot of myths, hype and wrong statements if it comes to all of them because lack of knowledge. It's dangerous if noobs/non-experts talking about this because it's contra productive.

    Some of the 'old' threads on reddit and other forums are also now removed by authors itself because they realized what BS they had talked. You need to check all aspects and facts not only grab something you not understand and then automatically say it's evil.
     
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    IDK, beyond... I turned Off every W10 Settings switch and turned On all but one O&OShutUp10 switch. And disabled a few Services that I don't recall from pre W10.
     
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    Found Microsoft Compatibility Telemetry and Microsoft Feedback SIUF Deployment Manager Client with Norton FW as Allow. Thought, I Off'd all switches and have third party privacy tool. And Microsoft Help and Support as Allow.
    Oh bother.
     
  13. rethink

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    I want to ask a few questions about LTSB N Edition from a privacy standpoint:
    Microsoft claims
    I am reading also Onedrive exists. So I have a few questions
    1) How easy is to remove those 4 modern apps and OneDrive?
    2) If you remove search this affects cortana only or the whole search?
    3) Telemetry stuff still exists and can be disabled as a service.
    4) Which of the tools / scripts that exist will help to remove the remaining privacy issues /bloatware
     
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    EEF Says:Microsoft should ‘come clean’ about ‘malicious’ Windows 10

    "The Electronic Frontier Foundation, an advocacy group for digital rights, has published a no-holds-barred blog post condemning Windows 10’s collection of data, and the “malicious” way Microsoft pushed 10 onto consumers. If you’re not a fan of seeing Microsoft being verbally beaten up, this will be a rough ride."

    http://bgr.com/2016/08/24/privacy-group-microsoft-should-come-clean-about-malicious-windows-10/

    EEF Statement:

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/...-disregards-user-choice-and-privacy-deep-dive
     
  15. Rigz

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    My experience is installing LTSB, taking the time to run through a bunch of registry and group policy changes, and then having quite a few of my settings reset to the default (as in new installation default) value after running Windows Update.
     
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    Uh, that's bad. I was hoping they would leave LTSB settings untouched. It's just too much work to check all settings after each update.
     
  17. TheWindBringeth

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    ... and, given the context, too dangerous not to. It is more mitigation than solution, but a configuration management tool that applies settings *and* monitors those settings for changes might help.
     
  18. Rigz

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    Is it just me or have other people had Windows 10 turn settings back on now and then after restarts?

    Settings -> Privacy -> Contacts
    Windows Shell Experience has been a repeat offender in turning itself back on in this section.
     
  19. Krusty

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    Uninstalled Contacts here.
     
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    No, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, a lot. I question the wording with the descriptions.

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    Sometimes, you don't know exactly what these descriptors are saying, kind of vague. When you're Microsoft, you can take a huge amount of creative license with words. Is "typing and writing" the only info Microsoft's getting?
     
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    If MS eventually deploys 'continuum' you can bet that there will be no option to turn it off. How will Enterprises respond to this level of access? It will be interesting if MS denies them their current privacy privileges after they migrate to W10. MS wants to collect the golden eggs, not kill the goose, so this is going to have to be handled delicately. The relationship that MS has with Enterprises has become very frosty (at the IT level) due to the patching policy change on W7 - it was not handled delicately. Everyone's hackles are up.
     
  24. Anonfame1

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    As our technology has evolved over millennia, it has gained the ability to accomplish MORE bad and MORE good; put another way, as technology grows in its power it typically offers more capacity to do harm as well as more capacity to do good.

    In terms of subjective moral terms like "good" and "bad," technology itself is usually neutral. For example, consider nuclear energy. On the one hand, a nuclear bomb can kill the entire population of a city and leave the resulting land uninhabitable for decades (or millennia if plutonium based)- this is bad. On the other hand, a reactor complex not much bigger than a Walmart and its parking lot can power an area code for 50 years or more- this is good. The internet is another example: greater exchange of information and social interaction (good), while also allowing greater surveillance and mass-control (bad). Guns are yet another: allows a physically weak person to be able to defend himself/herself from a psycho (good), yet allows a psycho to walk into a theater or school and kill a lot of people (bad).

    **EDIT FOR SUMMARY** Technology is like the arm of man. Technology in the hands of a bad person will do bad things; technology in the hands of a good person will do good things. Microsoft is a bad bad man...

    The general thrust of the idea listed in the patent is technologically neutral. Limited technologies exist today even on Linux to allow communications between applications (KDE especially), and of course Windows has limited variants as well. The theory of applications being able to communicate with one another allowing better service to users is sound both logically and historically.

    Unfortunately, this is a corporation we're talking about. And worse, Microsoft is the corporation. Corporations do not introduce technology to help people unless doing so causes people to buy more of their product. Otherwise, the technology is introduced to exploit or control people in the pursuit of further profits- Microsoft is a hallmark of this reality.

    So given the fact Microsoft is the pusher, this is some really scary stuff :eek:
     
  25. TheWindBringeth

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    I don't think that patent genuinely describes applications communicating with each other. It describes an *operating system component* which explicitly, and rather aggressively, monitors/datamines what a user is doing in and across applications. Including, I would say, applications which are *not* designed to use or allow cross application information exchange. Also, not just for search purposes ("but also for advertisements, applications, and/or coupons, for example") and not on just one device ("the architecture enables context inference across user devices").

    How does an application protect itself from an OS that is *truly* designed to spy on it? Can the application prevent the OS from datamining the API's it uses? Can it prevent the OS from extracting information from memory? Can it prevent the OS from performing OCR on graphics buffers? Can it prevent the OS from performing speech recognition on VOIP calls?
     
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