Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

This is really shocking, I will try to avoid Win 10 as long as possible.

 

I noticed that Win 10 seemed heavily dependent on MS servers after I did a clean install a half dozen times and got different results each time. It seems that 10 relies intensely on servers for all kinds of things, so this doesn't really surprise me at all. Even the things 10 does in the ordinary course of usage has varied from one month to the next. I think they rely too much on the servers and this leads to both buggy and inconsistent behavior on the part of the OS.

Anyway, it is what it is.

 

5508/8/60 thats around 11 requests per minute. That is scary. Why the hell does it need to connect to their server that much. Especially on idle?

Of the IP list I posted earlier, 113 are non private addresses.

A live stream of your OS to MS?

Seems like these privacy tools will be ever playing catch up, as these IP's will likely change every so often. As of moment they seem to help. But its the loss of confidence and trust I have the biggest issues with.

 

Yep. The inevitable is finally arrived in full view with 10's freebie/forced release. I always suspected MS could and likely (Did) test and experiment (why not right?) such shenanigans long ago beginning from XP onward and why I stopped at SP2 and FINAL. Being a huge windows customizer with automating on-screen graphics etc. and even liking for a time M$'s agent characters (A.I. fun) and such it one day reached a point where those so-called security updates would totally Bork all those many hours/days/weeks and sometimes months spent on the effort and tweakings from a single update. This of course was before I took IMAGING seriously enough to actually start making backups. But whether by accident or design it was enough to discourage use of auto-updates anymore and eventually foregoing any altogether.

I mean with such great third party AV and AS developments at the time and their respective programs, no security updates were as advanced as what these guys were able to prevent in the first place and then some.

So Microsoft from my own experience seemed to really had devised a very nice basic framework from which freelance & professional customizers alike could enhance and improve on everything from graphics to automated tasks etc. and there was no more concern over THAT type of interferences.

I have never understood why Microsoft refused to hire (and maybe salary?) (some would worked for free with just some recognition) some of those net freelancers to really improve it's interface and other Windows operations that could only served to really advance their desktop line to newer heights.

Dunno. I think the shock of being left out from the rapid rising popularity from the Mobile Phone craze left them where they are now, and that's doing anything & everything to artificially inflate numbers for this newest O/S but in so doing is left a whole planet population of what used to be pretty happy and satisfied Windows supporters (businesses too) taking serious pause with them anymore. This current manner (in a time of serious privacy concerns) where they are making the effort to force all of their new system operations onto end users machines in the way they have to date speaks of some desperation on their end.

It took me awhile to transition totally off and away from XP to begin with and now that I personally have become quite content with Win 8 as so many others before me have already been with Win 7 for a longer time, I really do miss that they didn't even try to release a Windows 9 first.

 

One thing I also noticed in the article is the top or first server listed and then the 1619 UDP connection attempts. UDP is not 2-way traffic. I'd have to research and learn about protocols again (I've forgotten all that stuff), but I think UDP is relatively harmless, it's definitely not 2 way traffic, that's TCP. So in the chart, the item with the most points is the UDP attempts, which may be nothing of interest at all...

Here's a link to the wiki that defines UDP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

UDP doesn't appear to be used to transmit much in the way of raw data or text or anything like that.

 

According to your link, UDP can be used to transmit voice and video for such uses as steaming/online games, but it is generally a minimal message orientated transport layer used for network or server transaction orientated queries.

 

Yep... I wouldn't try to read too much into all this. Everyone decides whether they can live with the Win 10 privacy issues/concerns or not I guess. Some can, and some don't want to.

 

Yes you are right. Everyone has to decide for themselves. Could just very well be another one of those "move with the times", "stop living in the past" moments. . However even if that is the case, it doesn't mean it has to be accepted.

regards.

 

I think most users (especially Win7 users) who didn't go to Win 8 but stayed behind are going to be especially reluctant and resistant to Win 10. As for me i'm only now just getting used to updating to Win 8.1 and that was a stretch in itself. I mean they didn't even give users a chance to get their feet wet on a version 9 and now their bent on driving users to Win 10 and especially in some instances slipping it thru basic security updates?

Oh well. If it ain't broke it doesn't need fixing. (again)

 

@EASTER It has been my experience that Windows 7 users are happy to upgrade to Windows 10. When I'm working on Windows 7 computers, I will tell the owner I can upgrade to Windows 10, and they want me to do the upgrade for them. The only exception was where a user needed to run some software which they had been told would not run under Windows 10. Maybe the software would have run under Windows 10 anyway, but I really do not know.

 

Easter,

Win8 was released over 3 years ago. I'm not sure why you are reluctant to try Win10 as it's much the same as Win8 to use. But it feels faster and looks slicker.

I have WinXP, Win7 and Win8 OS in this computer (multi-boot) but I never use them apart from tests.

 

I suppose that the reluctance this time around (I skipped 7 completely) is the fact that just when you have spent all those many months fine tuning and populating an O/S with everything compatible (software), picture perfect and all your setup is working at it's best to near perfection, it's like when your in normal road traffic and someone cuts you off suddenly (for whatever reason) by moving over in front of your vehicle and forces you for safety sake to adjust and reorient your whole pace, or at worse slam on their brakes out of nowhere.

Add to that the privacy concerns being raised more and more everyday on multiple forums over the lame telemetry practice and all, it just doesn't offer enough confidence to start all over again from scratch. It's ludicrous to me. It took some getting used to Windows 8-8.1 over the store tiles ordeal as it was.

Frankly as it stands now for all my machines i'm quite pleased with seeing this.........

Status and settings summary:
No traces of the Get Windows 10 app, Windows 10 upgrade settings, or Windows 10 installation files found. You appear to be safe!

 

I agree with you,I start to like Windows 10 better. And as for privacy once you are connected to the web there is no privacy anyway...

 

I have to agree also... I find that Win 10 runs really well on my machine here, better than 7 or 8.1 at this time.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again; I loved Windows 7 but both of my machines are running Windows 10 now and there is no going back for me.

 

@Krusty13 Agreed. It's working fine on the 20+ computers I've installed it on, except for one on which I had to go back to Windows 7 due to a video issue.

 

EASTER,

I certainly understand you have done a lot of work getting your Win8.1 OS tweaked to your satisfaction. You are reluctant to do that work with Win10. But you don't have to.

I've clean installed many Win10 and performed many Win8.1 to Win10 upgrades. Which do I prefer? Upgrades of course as Microsoft has nailed the Win10 method, unlike upgrades to earlier OS. All your Win8.1 settings and applications will carry over into Win10 and will be just as they were before the upgrade. No further work to do.

If you don't like Win10 you can just restore your Win8.1 image. Nothing lost.

Edit... You don't really need an updated Win8.1 to do the Win10 upgrade. You can have a fresh Win7 or Win8 install without any Windows Updates and you can upgrade to Win10.

 

No thanks. Appreciate the encouragement but it's way too soon for Microsoft (for me) to usher out something again (Win 10) when Win 8.1 hasn't even settled in enough with loyal end users as well as skipping Windows 9.

At this point I would wish Bill Gates would have appointed some trusted family member to run this company then where it's headed lately. It seems to have gravitated away from what really worked well enough before into too much unpredictability.

 

@EASTER Microsoft had to skip Windows 9 because some old software may not read the full Windows version and think it is Windows 95 or 98, and not Windows 9.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2690724/why-windows-10-isnt-named-9-windows-95-legacy-code.html

Each to their own of of course. But, in my opinion Windows 10 is the best OS Microsoft have made.

 

I do the opposite, Windows 10 is just to test and fool around with. XP and 7 are for real work in OSes I know and can rely upon. There are a lot of Windows 7 users who don't like 8 or 10 at all. I have a Windows 8 VM and can see the transition from 8 to 10 is less dramatic than 7 to 10 but it still could bork a few things.

I haven't found any real advantage to 10 on the hardware/driver/system speed level at all and the privacy issues are serious to those who are concerned about privacy. Those who are not often don't understand the posture of those who are. Apart from that, I don't like the general pushiness of Windows 10 of which both privacy and forced updates are a part but not the whole of it.

 

IMO, if you're on 8.1 and you're happy, then definitely stick with it. 8.1 was cleaned up pretty good, and really fairly nice.

 

100%! Agree!

It only took getting used to the silly tiles/stores commercialized crap feature to realize it's only a nuisance that comes with the territory of Win 8 if you let it and that "Classic Shell" is even better than if they left the old start button in it. Patchguard and UAC introductions helped take the sting out of tile business.

Windows 8.1 easily (not even using "Compatibility Mode") runs perfectly stable software that stretches back as far as Windows 98/XP without issue. So in essence it's the best of all worlds with both Security Apps as well as Automations + Graphics + Customizations are not interfered with or interrupted which would most definitely be experienced with severe issues trying to run on Win 10.

 

hi
for the first time microsoft added a changelog about windows 10 update
released today 10586.104 , i found this http://www.windowscentral.com/february-9-cumulative-update-windows-10-now-available

 

Imagine that one

 

All the people who are reluctant to go to Windows 10 , I would say make a backup of your current OS , upgrade to 10 in the free upgrade period , so that in the future you can anytime upgrade to 10 genuinely